Chinook Posted Friday at 11:03 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:03 PM It's like a giant claw coming to get us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC609 Posted Friday at 11:24 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:24 PM 3 hours ago, michsnowfreak said: Where are you living now? Definitely disagree with summer extending 2 months - thats simply not true. However, average temps have risen more in spring/fall. In the southern Great Lakes, we still get accumulating snow in April, frosts/freezes/snow into May, snow in October, and sometimes cold and multiple snows in November. Every year is different of course, but the growing season is not based on an "average" temperature. Spring in particular is often a very dreary season in these parts, so an increase in temps would be beneficial to many a normie, though you will still get the cold/snow late. Chopping a few days off the first/last dates for snow/freezes really doesnt mean much in the grand scheme of things. Winter is cold, summer is hot...transition seasons are a massive wildcard. Detroit first/last freeze *** first/last measurable snow Last 30 years (1997-2026): October 27 – April 21 *** November 20 – April 5 POR (1874-2026): October 22 – April 24 *** November 16 – April 8 Chicago first/last freeze *** first/last measurable snow Last 30 years (1997-2026): October 24 – April 20 *** November 20 – April 2 POR (1872-2026): October 25 – April 18 *** November 17 – April 2 I'm about 80 miles due South of Chicago. I would have thought by now I would have seen a frost. I know the Shenandoah Valley has already had multiple mornings in the 20s but they always have that. Hell, it snowed 10-18 inches there on October 10, 1979. The summers have definitely lengthened over the last 20 years. I would probably have to move to Michigan or Wisconsin to get more of the climate that I would enjoy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted Saturday at 02:04 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:04 AM 2 hours ago, EC609 said: I'm about 80 miles due South of Chicago. I would have thought by now I would have seen a frost. I know the Shenandoah Valley has already had multiple mornings in the 20s but they always have that. Hell, it snowed 10-18 inches there on October 10, 1979. The summers have definitely lengthened over the last 20 years. I would probably have to move to Michigan or Wisconsin to get more of the climate that I would enjoy. The summers haven't lengthened 2 months is my point. This October is very abnormal warmth wise, especially out your way. Im not sure what your exact averages are being 80 miles south of Chicago, but the Chicago area saw several October snowfalls in recent years. Naturally Michigan or Wisconsin are colder, but you cant consider a top 10 or 5 month "normal". November looks to start with well above avg temperatures, and it will be interesting to see how the back half of the month plays out, because November has the largest difference of any month from first to last day of the month, so the natural quick descent into winter November sees will be fighting the influence of a strong nino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted Saturday at 02:34 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:34 AM 28 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: Im not sure what your exact averages are being 80 miles south of Chicago, but the Chicago area saw several October snowfalls in recent years. i can confirm that this is not the case. only 1 measurable snowfall since 2020, and that occurred on halloween 2023 (0.9"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevlon62 Posted Saturday at 10:41 AM Share Posted Saturday at 10:41 AM https://www.weather.gov/lot/halloween_climate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted Saturday at 01:35 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:35 PM Happy Halloween, some wet weather overnight and throughout the day but overall this looks like the nicest Halloween here in 4 years with a high around 57. 2 of the past 3 have featured trick or treating with snow on the ground so not having to dress the kids in winter gear with costumes overtop will be nice for a change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted Saturday at 01:57 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:57 PM Picked up 0.02" yesterday, and 0.04" early this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted Saturday at 02:43 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:43 PM 12 hours ago, Chicago Storm said: i can confirm that this is not the case. only 1 measurable snowfall since 2020, and that occurred on halloween 2023 (0.9"). I was going by vague memory as a general statement (I dont know Chicago stats like I do Detroits lol). It was 2019 & 2023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted Saturday at 02:46 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:46 PM 4 hours ago, kevlon62 said: https://www.weather.gov/lot/halloween_climate Interesting that Chicago never had measurable snow on Halloween til 2014 then has had it 3 times since. Detroit has only had it twice (1993- 0.1", 2023- 0.2"). Halloween 1950 was a scorcher (79° at Detroit but 81° on Nov 1st). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvck Posted Sunday at 03:09 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:09 PM October finished as the 7th warmest and 11th driest in cincinnati, dating back to 1872. Only 0.59" of rain! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted Sunday at 03:28 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:28 PM DLH Oct mean of 49.5 tied 9th warmest of 92 unique temps. Midpoint temp is 44.6. PWS near old wx bureau site in downtown DLH recorded 51.3. Precip of 1.90" was tied 80th wettest (tied 56th driest) of 135 unique amounts. Midpoint amount is 2.29". TH co-op Oct mean of 49.8 tied 12th warmest of 73 unique temps. Midpoint temp is 46.4. Precip of 2.16" was 61st wettest of 121 unique amounts. Midpoint amount is 2.16". Old wx bureau-PWS/DLH arpt mean temps 10/48 48.1/45.2 10/49 47.1/45.2 10/50 46.5/45.8 10/51 41.9/42.0 10/52 39.8/38.7 10/53 49.8/50.3 10/54 42.2/41.7 10/55 45.2/45.1 10/56 48.8/49.3 10/57 43.9/43.2 10/58 45.3/45.2 **** 10/23 47.4/45.6 10/24 52.0/50.1 * 10/26 51.3/49.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted Sunday at 10:59 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:59 PM Toledo had an average temperature of 58.2. It was the 9th warmest October Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted Sunday at 11:30 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:30 PM 31 minutes ago, Chinook said: Toledo had an average temperature of 58.2. It was the 9th warmest October 9th warmest at Detroit as well with 58.3°. Interestingly, the warmest Octobers are all long ago. 1963 62.7 1947 60.3 1900 60.0 1920 59.5 1879 59.5 2021 59.4 2007 59.1 1971 58.5 2026 58.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmillzz Posted yesterday at 04:35 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:35 PM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted yesterday at 04:51 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:51 PM 3rd warmest October on record at KIND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmillzz Posted yesterday at 05:16 PM Share Posted yesterday at 05:16 PM 24 minutes ago, Jackstraw said: 3rd warmest October on record at KIND March, April, September, and October all made the top five warmest at KIND this year, with April and September claiming the top spot. Pretty insane stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago October 2026 finished tied as the 6th warmest October on record in Chicago. Warmest September 1. 64.3° - 1963 2. 62.2° - 1971 3. 62.1° - 1947 4. 61.9° - 1920 5. 61.4° - 1900 6. 60.8° - 2026 6. 60.8° - 1956 6. 60.8° - 1879 9. 59.8° - 1924 10. 59.7° - 2024 10. 59.7° - 2021 10. 59.7° - 1953 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartman Posted 57 minutes ago Share Posted 57 minutes ago 000 CXUS51 KILN 010531 CF6DAY PRELIMINARY LOCAL CLIMATOLOGICAL DATA (WS FORM: F-6) STATION: DAYTON OH MONTH: OCTOBER YEAR: 2026 LATITUDE: 39 54 N LONGITUDE: 84 12 W TEMPERATURE IN F: :PCPN: SNOW: WIND :SUNSHINE: SKY :PK WND ================================================================================ 1 2 3 4 5 6A 6B 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 12Z AVG MX 2MIN DY MAX MIN AVG DEP HDD CDD WTR SNW DPTH SPD SPD DIR MIN PSBL S-S WX SPD DR ================================================================================ 1 85 65 75 13 0 10 0.00 0.0 0 12.1 21 230 M M 6 28 240 2 75 51 63 1 2 0 0.61 0.0 0 10.4 17 20 M M 9 1 24 210 3 68 46 57 -4 8 0 0.00 0.0 0 7.2 17 70 M M 2 24 100 4 75 46 61 0 4 0 0.00 0.0 0 3.9 12 330 M M 4 19 300 5 68 46 57 -3 8 0 0.00 0.0 0 7.0 18 40 M M 0 26 30 6 69 43 56 -4 9 0 0.00 0.0 0 4.1 13 150 M M 0 17 170 7 78 49 64 4 1 0 0.00 0.0 0 11.0 23 230 M M 1 29 240 8 75 52 64 5 1 0 0.00 0.0 0 6.4 21 300 M M 1 27 330 9 75 48 62 3 3 0 0.00 0.0 0 5.8 12 160 M M 4 16 110 10 68 54 61 3 4 0 0.04 0.0 0 8.9 17 140 M M 9 1 24 110 11 63 58 61 3 4 0 0.02 0.0 0 7.5 16 110 M M 10 1 21 120 12 79 56 68 10 0 3 0.00 0.0 0 8.2 15 220 M M 7 12 20 200 13 87 66 77 20 0 12 T 0.0 0 11.7 21 240 M M 4 27 240 14 84 62 73 16 0 8 0.24 0.0 0 9.7 16 230 M M 7 18 21 300 15 72 58 65 9 0 0 0.13 0.0 0 8.9 22 240 M M 10 1 29 230 16 71 48 60 4 5 0 0.35 0.0 0 14.6 25 290 M M 10 1 38 290 17 54 38 46 -10 19 0 0.00 0.0 0 8.2 21 10 M M 3 29 360 18 64 35 50 -5 15 0 0.00 0.0 0 5.4 12 160 M M 0 20 130 19 68 38 53 -2 12 0 0.00 0.0 0 1.4 8 170 M M 0 12 140 20 70 39 55 1 10 0 0.00 0.0 0 3.3 9 60 M M 1 11 60 21 69 39 54 0 11 0 0.00 0.0 0 3.8 14 360 M M 0 1 17 360 22 69 42 56 2 9 0 0.00 0.0 0 4.3 13 10 M M 0 16 30 23 68 42 55 2 10 0 0.00 0.0 0 3.3 12 80 M M 1 1 17 80 24 69 43 56 3 9 0 0.00 0.0 0 4.0 9 100 M M 2 18 12 130 25 69 43 56 4 9 0 0.00 0.0 0 2.3 9 160 M M 2 10 150 26 72 45 59 7 6 0 0.00 0.0 0 2.6 8 250 M M 5 11 280 27 71 46 59 7 6 0 0.00 0.0 0 3.5 9 150 M M 6 12 150 28 74 51 63 12 2 0 0.00 0.0 0 3.9 10 220 M M 3 17 230 29 76 52 64 13 1 0 0.00 0.0 0 9.2 22 250 M M 4 28 250 30 68 46 57 7 8 0 0.00 0.0 0 7.3 15 350 M M 4 19 350 31 63 48 56 6 9 0 0.00 0.0 0 9.6 16 100 M M 9 21 110 ================================================================================ SM 2216 1495 185 33 1.39 0.0 209.5 M 124 ================================================================================ AV 71.5 48.2 6.8 FASTST M M 4 MAX(MPH) MISC ----> 25 290 38 290 ================================================================================ NOTES: # LAST OF SEVERAL OCCURRENCES COLUMN 17 PEAK WIND IN M.P.H. PRELIMINARY LOCAL CLIMATOLOGICAL DATA (WS FORM: F-6) , PAGE 2 STATION: DAYTON OH MONTH: OCTOBER YEAR: 2026 LATITUDE: 39 54 N LONGITUDE: 84 12 W [TEMPERATURE DATA] [PRECIPITATION DATA] SYMBOLS USED IN COLUMN 16 AVERAGE MONTHLY: 59.9 TOTAL FOR MONTH: 1.39 1 = FOG OR MIST DPTR FM NORMAL: 3.9 DPTR FM NORMAL: -1.56 2 = FOG REDUCING VISIBILITY HIGHEST: 87 ON 13 GRTST 24HR 0.61 ON 2- 2 TO 1/4 MILE OR LESS LOWEST: 35 ON 18 3 = THUNDER SNOW, ICE PELLETS, HAIL 4 = ICE PELLETS TOTAL MONTH: 0.0 INCH 5 = HAIL GRTST 24HR 0.0 6 = FREEZING RAIN OR DRIZZLE GRTST DEPTH: 0 7 = DUSTSTORM OR SANDSTORM: VSBY 1/2 MILE OR LESS 8 = SMOKE OR HAZE [NO. OF DAYS WITH] [WEATHER - DAYS WITH] 9 = BLOWING SNOW X = TORNADO MAX 32 OR BELOW: 0 0.01 INCH OR MORE: 6 MAX 90 OR ABOVE: 0 0.10 INCH OR MORE: 4 MIN 32 OR BELOW: 0 0.50 INCH OR MORE: 1 MIN 0 OR BELOW: 0 1.00 INCH OR MORE: 0 [HDD (BASE 65) ] TOTAL THIS MO. 185 CLEAR (SCALE 0-3) 14 DPTR FM NORMAL -115 PTCLDY (SCALE 4-7) 11 TOTAL FM JUL 1 229 CLOUDY (SCALE 8-10) 6 DPTR FM NORMAL -132 [CDD (BASE 65) ] TOTAL THIS MO. 33 DPTR FM NORMAL 10 [PRESSURE DATA] TOTAL FM JAN 1 1165 HIGHEST SLP M ON M DPTR FM NORMAL 13 LOWEST SLP 29.31 ON 31 [REMARKS] #FINAL-10-26# 10th warmest October on record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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