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36 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

6500’ in the Rockies? It happens there. 

Not this late this low in elevation for sig amounts.  It's rare.  Don't conflate flakes in the air w/ 20"+!  LOL.  We are talking almost July here, and sig CONUS snowfall even at higher elevations is pushing it.  Early June it can do it, and by mid August it can as well (see GTF in Aug 1992), but that window last week of June to early Aug, it is very difficult.

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51 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

When it snows above 2,000ft even in New England (anytime of year), no one really cares lol.

Above 8,000ft in the Bitterroot Mtns isn’t going to move the public interest needle much.

Snow New England below 5000 ft is practically unheard of late June into July.  MWN biggest snowfall in the summer is 4" on 6/30-7/1 1988.  I recall PL on MWN in July 1996. 

I am talking about meteorological significance/anomaly, not what moves the public needle.  These are 2 different things.   Location on the globe is irrelevant in the large pix.  The MSM often conflates/confuses meteorological significance w/ societal impact.  These two are not always directly correlated.  Case in point, the CoastalWx 8 hr commute "at least I got to listen to the draft" Dec 13, 2007 event.  MEH 4-8" snowfall, but the timing was the worst, and in their grand infinite wisdom, officials decided to let everyone out at noon as the S+ was in full swing.  Among the worst SNE gridlocks ever, but a MEH meteorological event.

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1 hour ago, powderfreak said:

I honestly think if MSM polled the public they would say it snows year round in the northern Rockies peaks.

Well, this makes a point in a way.  What the media (or general public) *thinks* (or believes) and what actually *is* in reality are often two different things, and wx is loaded w/ misconceptions. and egregious beliefs.

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1 hour ago, powderfreak said:

Oh that trough means business.  I understand completely what Vortex means by bias.  If MWN was going to see freezing temps with highs in the 60s in New England, it would be talked about.

It’s just really hard to get the public to give two shits about anything high elevation in the Rockies… maybe some passing footage of snow on the tail end of a newscast while credits role. 

Oh I know the media is what it is and the business model.  It doesn't do very good service to wx science and the like though. :(

As mets/weenies though, we should care!  Anything the atmosphere dishes out impressive no matter when or where is of significance.  And we can convey that to ppl not mets or not in the know that things are not always what they seem.  I have found many ppl suspect this or that about wx and can't get a straight or clear answers, and they have no idea who to ask or where to starts b/c the shear amounts of info out there and endless opinions and conjecture!  Ppl like to be validated when they have practical suspicions or wonder a lot, and then hear something closer to the real deal.

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21 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I don’t understand why they ruined weather.cod

I’ll add again that I have no problem getting the new site to load on my iphone by choosing “request desktop site”. Make sure you aren’t on the Legacy link when you do it because that URL remains the old one. 

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17 minutes ago, dendrite said:

They’re gonna have bigger problems once the NCEP models cease. Rufus is nowhere to be seen on their site.

I know the site admin.  They will add RRFS but have to get the NAM off first b/c processing power is currently limited for their network. 

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20 minutes ago, dendrite said:

I’ll add again that I have no problem getting the new site to load on my iphone by choosing “request desktop site”. Make sure you aren’t on the Legacy link when you do it because that URL remains the old one. 

I tried that but it’s not working. Unless somehow I keep pointing at the old link. 
 

what’s the new link? 

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5 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Beer helps soothe anger 

That was me last night when Wxlink wouldn’t upload online . Was close to breaking point 

I have no idea why it’s working for everyone else but me. I’m about to mail them a white powder.

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Going back a bit, I was talking about PWM record high tides on a post.  I got an updated table from GYX (attached). Some interesting items that I learned.

Storm surge and storm tide are 2 different things, but we often use them interchangeably.

Storm surge is the water height deviation from atmospheric phenomena in itself, nothing else.

Storm tide takes into account everything, the atmospheric contribution, monthly astro tides, the 19 year tidal epoch, coast rise/drop, and anything else that may influence a tide height.

In the NEUS, we use storm tide the most b/c we have 2 high tides a day and our tidal ranges are high.  Along the Gulf Coast, storm surge used most often b/c there is only 1 high tide a day and the tidal range is low. 

For PWM, 3 of the 5 highest storm surges are not even in the top 20 highest storm tides, so that shows how one is not necessarily related to the other.
For proper historical scaling and an objective meteorological POV, storm surge is what one would use b/c that has only one factor.

For storm tides, one may note that we've had 5 top ten tides in the last 8 years.  But that is not a level playing field.  PWM sea level has risen about 8" in 100 years, and more than half of that is due to local land subsidence.
 

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11 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

 Looks like it works on cellular data. Not WiFi. Weird. Don’t feel like configuring DNS shit.

Flush your DNS cache and reset your IP on my PC.  It can be done from the command line prompt in Windows.  Google it, it is easy.  After doing it, reboot.

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10 minutes ago, vortex95 said:

Flush your DNS cache and reset your IP on my PC.  It can be done from the command line prompt in Windows.  Google it, it is easy.  After doing it, reboot.

ChatGPT seems to point to something with WiFi and how it’s routed. 

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1 hour ago, CoastalWx said:

I tried that but it’s not working. Unless somehow I keep pointing at the old link. 
 

what’s the new link? 

If legacy is in the url remove it. Or click numerical models from the top menu and do desktop site again

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