MJO812 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, forkyfork said: none of your little indicies are going to stop the displaced pac vortex from flooding the country with marine air all winter Winter cancel ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Central PA Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, snowman19 said: This is by far the strongest signal for a warm December since 2015 A +12 month with Christmas Day at 70..I doubt we see that but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiEaglesfan712 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, snowman19 said: This is by far the strongest signal for a warm December since 2015 Yeah, there are years when you just sniff out a warm December. 2015, 2021, and 2023 were pretty obvious. The Weather Channel had these predicted months in advance. This year looks like that way as well. 2026 would make it the 4 warmest Decembers ever in 12 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago A +12 month with Christmas Day at 70..I doubt we see that but who knows?Nowhere in that post did I say as warm as 2015, I said “the strongest warm December signal since 2015” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Central PA Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, MJO812 said: Winter cancel ? I'm sure they'll be winter weather sometime between late November and late March. Just expect much of the winter to have temps above normal. Probably lots of rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Central PA Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, snowman19 said: Nowhere in that post did I say as warm as 2015, I said “the strongest warm December signal since 2015” A good indication will be late October and early November, that's when the torch began leading to that insane Decmber month..Lets see if we see that in a few weeks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiEaglesfan712 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Keith Central PA said: A good indication will be late October and early November, that's when the torch began leading to that insane Decmber month..Lets see if we see that in a few weeks 2021 and 2023 were warm in October and cool in November before torching in December. Then again, those were -QBO years, with 2021 being a la nina. 2023 was a strong nino. If I remember correctly, 2015 had a very warm late August and September. October was the odd cool month in the bunch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said: 2021 and 2023 were warm in October and cool in November before torching in December. Then again, those were -QBO years, with 2021 being a la nina. 2023 was a strong nino. If I remember correctly, 2015 had a very warm late August and September. October was the odd cool month in the bunch. Like anything, when warmth dominates a pattern, it doesnt mean there will be no cold shots. And its impossible to pinpoint when they will be. I will be surprised if there isnt a spell of cold/snow in the Great Lakes in November. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Another big time WWB is in progress currently. This time pushing east of the dateline. First chart are the actual zonal winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, Keith Central PA said: I'm sure they'll be winter weather sometime between late November and late March. Just expect much of the winter to have temps above normal. Probably lots of rain. All about blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakePaste25 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago +EAMT beginning to show up in the models towards the end of october with high SLP east of the Himalayas. Watch out for a jet extension and +PNA after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 17 hours ago, Terpeast said: Euro and AI Euro ensembles are switching to -NAO around Oct 22, fwiw, after +NAO for several weeks GEFS also sees this: The most similar El Niño Octobers to this forecast of a solid -NAO in late Oct after a mainly +NAO in early to mid Oct are 1976 and 1963 with 2002 the next most similar. @Stormchaserchuck1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Not your typical strong El Nino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 52 minutes ago Share Posted 52 minutes ago 19 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Not your typical strong El Nino Thanks, Anthony. One thing I’ll say is that there’s nothing unusual about having a W QBO during a very strong El Niño as: -1957, 1982, and 2015 had it -1965, 1972, 1991, and 1997 didn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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