SnoSki14 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Show me on the doll where mother nature hurt you.... I'm bracing for impact. My only hope is that the Super Nino and PDO act as deconstructive forces that somehow allow us to see wintry weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soadforecasterx Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Not sure the track record here but we could see another big jump soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, soadforecasterx said: Not sure the track record here but we could see another big jump soon. The October "mother of all WWB" has been on the Cfs2 for close to 2 months. Hard to believe with that model, but true nonetheless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, bluewave said: It was a+2.1 event up until a few years ago before the CPC dropped it to +1.8. So until very recently it was rated as a lower end super. In any event, it’s rare to get a +AO +EPO +WPO pattern in October regardless of the ENSO. We haven’t since this October combination since the 2011 La Niña. But this time around we are getting a stronger mid-latitude ridge across the CONUS than 2011 had. Unusual to get such a strong TPV this early in the season. The CPC has 1972-3 peaking at +2.0 in its most up to date RONI table linked just below. Since RONI is the official way of classifying (and has been since Feb), that’s the current CPC official peak for 1972-3 rather than +1.8: https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso/roni/ More on the transition of CPC from ONI to RONI for official classification of ENSO (this was released in Feb 2026): https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso/roni/announcement.php From the link above: “The Climate Prediction Center is making the shift to use the Relative Oceanic Niño Index (RONI) to better designate past events and predict future ENSO.” ——————— The table at the link below, which is to the most up to date ONI, has 1972-3 peaking at +1.8. But ONI hasn’t been the official way for CPC to classify since Feb. At the top it says this: This page will continue to be updated by the 5th of each month, but per NWS Public Information Statement 26-05, the Relative Oceanic Niño index (RONI) is used for official monitoring and prediction of the El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) phenomenon. https://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso/oni/v6/ @Maestrobjwa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Show me on the doll where mother nature hurt you.... We see so many posts like that, some are trolling, some just unawareness, some maybe a combination of both. But the inability for some to differentiate between a seasonal mean and the actual day to day weather is wild. The weather ebbs and flows and changes on a daily, weekly, and monthly basis. This shouldnt have to be explained repeatedly on a weather forum, but it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, michsnowfreak said: We see so many posts like that, some are trolling, some just unawareness, some maybe a combination of both. But the inability for some to differentiate between a seasonal mean and the actual day to day weather is wild. The weather ebbs and flows and changes on a daily, weekly, and monthly basis. This shouldnt have to be explained repeatedly on a weather forum, but it does. People throwing in the towel in October make me laugh. Same people do this every winter. There are so many factors to consider during the winter. Its not just enso. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, MJO812 said: People throwing in the towel in October make me laugh. Same people do this every winter. There are so many factors to consider during the winter. Its not just enso. Even throwing in the towel just based on ENSO, alone, would seem to be awfully bold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted 48 minutes ago Share Posted 48 minutes ago All regions are on a rapid rise. Even Nino 4 is finally heading back up rapidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 48 minutes ago Share Posted 48 minutes ago Mike Masco's thoughts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted 39 minutes ago Share Posted 39 minutes ago 8 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Mike Masco's thoughts more like weenies gone wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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