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Mid-Long Range Discussion 2026


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2 hours ago, StantonParkHoya said:


I know it’s time to put away the dreams of snow and cold and embrace the season of Spring


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 It’s already been like summer for many in the SE on many days this month. Many are headed for one of the warmest Marches on record. I have enough summer as it is. I’d prefer March be more like a spring month. Thus, I’m looking forward to the cooldown and am hoping April overall comes in less warm than March. This has zero to do with snow.

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4 hours ago, StantonParkHoya said:


I know it’s time to put away the dreams of snow and cold and embrace the season of Spring


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Why?  She smells like a blooming Bradford Pear tree, is covered in an obnoxious yellow powder, draws flies, and can’t make her mind up from one day to the next.  

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If RDU hits 90 tomorrow it will not only break the daily record, it would be the earliest 90 degree day in RDUs history. The average first 90 degree day for RDU is May 11, if that puts into perspective how impressive that would be. I’m not saying it will happen but with a forecast high of 87 it would not take much to come close 

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1 hour ago, NorthHillsWx said:

Tomorrow is a real threat to push 90 degrees in areas. My point click is showing 87. Record high for the date is 85. Today’s forecast shows 82, with the record to beat being 81. It is starting out cooler than forecast though, currently sitting at 51 

Crazy. Could be 90 tomorrow, and mid 20's beginning of next week. Definitely a possibility of damage to plants bloomed already. My Bermuda grass is already 80% green. 

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 The 6Z GFS suite is looking really stupid in being on its own including all of the main short term models in showing a snow threat in portions of C and E NC on Thu (3/12). Why is the GFS showing this??

GFS (Kuchera):

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GEFS mean (10:1):
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GEFS mean is almost all from the clueless members 4 and 14 with a small assist by 2 and 7 while the other 26 members essentially have nothing outside of the mtns:
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Extremely active storm track but fortunately it seems west of here for the near future. Possibly a significant tornado day in Texas and maybe even Illinois today. If energy keeps rising from Texas to Michigan we will keep catching tail end of systems with highest severe threats when they are this week west of here

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12 minutes ago, GaWx said:

 The 6Z GFS suite is looking really stupid in being on its own including all of the main short term models in showing a snow threat in portions of C and E NC on Thu (3/12). Why is the GFS showing this??

GFS (Kuchera):

IMG_8730.thumb.png.5f087c4c09e6167f4a0c0870ce73ae53.png
 

GEFS mean (10:1):
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GEFS mean is almost all from the clueless members 4 and 14 with a small assist by 2 and 7 while the other 26 members essentially have nothing outside of the mtns:
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The 06Z GFS shows some post St. Pattrick's Day snow for the SC coast :lol:.  That would cause some confusion for those who celebrated a little late the night before.  They would wake up thinking they slept through spring, summer, and fall.  

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8 minutes ago, GaWx said:

 The 6Z GFS suite is looking really stupid in being on its own including all of the main short term models in showing a snow threat in portions of C and E NC on Thu (3/12). Why is the GFS showing this??

GFS (Kuchera):

IMG_8730.thumb.png.5f087c4c09e6167f4a0c0870ce73ae53.png
 

GEFS mean (10:1):
IMG_8727.thumb.png.d6ced57684762a409e7f55b90de10125.png
 

GEFS mean is almost all from the clueless members 4 and 14 with a small assist by 2 and 7 while the other 26 members essentially have nothing outside of the mtns:
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GFS drives 850s below freezing much sooner than anything else. Not much difference synoptically or in surface depiction between it and anything else. Just way too quick with post frontal CAA east of mountains with the passage of the strong arctic front. I could see flakes mix in somewhere in Virginia but this will not be more than that (and mountain snow). Not really worth over analyzing, GFS just defies physics while other models understand cold is delayed by the mountains 

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59 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said:

GFS drives 850s below freezing much sooner than anything else. Not much difference synoptically or in surface depiction between it and anything else. Just way too quick with post frontal CAA east of mountains with the passage of the strong arctic front. I could see flakes mix in somewhere in Virginia but this will not be more than that (and mountain snow). Not really worth over analyzing, GFS just defies physics while other models understand cold is delayed by the mountains 

 Thanks for your explanation. I see that the surface temp is safely above 32.


 Here’s the surface pressures of the relevant 6Z GEFS members as of the end of the snow period for portions of NC: what do they (2, 4, 7, and 14) have in common? lowest SLP both stronger and centered ~150-200 miles off SE coast:

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And here’s the 6 hour qpf: check out member 14 with its 1.25” swath:

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31 minutes ago, Met1985 said:

Whether snow or no snow the cold air is coming again. 

I’m most looking forward to 3/13 and especially 3/16-20, the colder of the two periods. Yes, it’s pretty short but I’ll take whatever I can get before summer resumes.

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30 minutes ago, Met1985 said:

Short but will be stout. Currently looking at the low to mid teens here in the mountains with flow snow.

 Snow chances this far south have, of course, been done. We got the 3/4” on 1/31, which is quite snowy for way down here and was very enjoyable! I’m just looking forward to the clean chilly Canadian air, which is always welcomed. 

 Will we get any more freezes or frosts though? Not from the first real short chill as that will get us to ~45. The second, however, should get us a couple of 30s.

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