NNE Cold Season Thread 2025-2026

[EMontpelierWhiteout]

7 hours ago, powderfreak said:

Interesting they were all working for me…

Seems like they won’t load on my IPad.  Worked on my laptop.

[powderfreak]

35 minutes ago, EMontpelierWhiteout said:

Seems like they won’t load on my IPad.  Worked on my laptop.

That’s actually good to know.  I’ll try on my wife’s iPad later.

[powderfreak]

44" seasonal snowfall measured.

38" of snow depth at the Stake.

Not much settling happening out there.  This snow is dense, with plenty of dense graupel and smaller flakes, mixed with wind.

It has felt like dense sand... QPF-rich frozen precip.

 

[masonwoods]

6 hours ago, powderfreak said:

44" seasonal snowfall measured.

38" of snow depth at the Stake.

Not much settling happening out there.  This snow is dense, with plenty of dense graupel and smaller flakes, mixed with wind.

It has felt like dense sand... QPF-rich frozen precip.

 

This weekend I’m heading up to your neck of the woods to hike Camel’s Hump and Mount Abraham.  What should I expect for snow conditions?

[powderfreak]

6 hours ago, masonwoods said:

This weekend I’m heading up to your neck of the woods to hike Camel’s Hump and Mount Abraham.  What should I expect for snow conditions?

Expect snowy conditions, ha.  Probably a couple feet on the ground up high there.

[powderfreak]

22 hours ago, Boston Bulldog said:

Looks like Jay’s claiming 34” at the summit for the cycle that ended last Friday (Based off them reporting 21” over the last 48 hours). Coverage up there was great on Saturday, but I would subtract 10-12” from that for sure. It’s not like it was 3 feet of blower that condensed down, the snowpack was dense and surfy with little room for compaction. 

Love Jay but these reports seem to get increasingly ridiculous. 55” in a drift up against the Tram House perhaps?

Jay reported another 16-24" in the past 24 hours and 40" in 48 hours.  It just keeps getting wilder.

Mansfield measured 16" in the past 48 hours and all-time snow depths.

[WxWatcher007]

9 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Jay reported another 16-24" in the past 24 hours and 40" in 48 hours.  It just keeps getting wilder.

Mansfield measured 16" in the past 48 hours and all-time snow depths.

Insane

[Lava Rock]

39 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Insane

Jay now reporting 92" already? seems fudgy

[Boston Bulldog]

48 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Jay reported another 16-24" in the past 24 hours and 40" in 48 hours.  It just keeps getting wilder.

Mansfield measured 16" in the past 48 hours and all-time snow depths.

It was clear when they reported 6-10” last Tuesday morning (with a bare Stateside cam no less) that they were going to keep the preseason snow totals very fast and loose. Alta’s 2022-23 season total better look out, Jay’s coming for the 900” crown

[WxWatcher007]

2 minutes ago, Lava Rock said:

Jay now reporting 92" already? seems fudgy

Isn’t that a common thing among these establishments?

[powderfreak]

21 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Isn’t that a common thing among these establishments?

It was, becoming much less by the number of places actually measuring snow. 

[powderfreak]

1 hour ago, Boston Bulldog said:

It was clear when they reported 6-10” last Tuesday morning (with a bare Stateside cam no less) that they were going to keep the preseason snow totals very fast and loose. Alta’s 2022-23 season total better look out, Jay’s coming for the 900” crown

Past event map:

[bwt3650]

It was, becoming much less by the number of places actually measuring snow. 

“This is jay peak. It’s the snowiest spot in the east, period. We’ve gotten a shit ton of snow. There’s a shit ton at 1800 ft, there’s a larger shit ton at 4000 ft. It has been snowing a lot, and it’s been really windy and there’s a shit ton of snow. In some spots, there’s 4 feet, in some spots there’s a foot. Wherever you ski, there’s a shit ton of snow”

I think this would be a more effective snow report and prevent the endless debates over what we all know is a shit ton of snow, skewed heavy due to obvious marketing embellishments and lack of precise measurements when numerical values are put on it.


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[WxWatcher007]

17 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Past event map:

It was a good event in Saranac Lake, better than originally expected. It’s early, but I’ve noticed 1) BTV underestimates snow potential here and 2) it’s often snowing even when the radar looks clear 

We’ll have non-accumulating flakes during the day and as soon as the sun sets BAM we’re approaching an inch of fluff. 

[mreaves]

KMPV is -1.8° just over half way through the month.

[powderfreak]

1 hour ago, bwt3650 said:

“This is jay peak. It’s the snowiest spot in the east, period. We’ve gotten a shit ton of snow. There’s a shit ton at 1800 ft, there’s a larger shit ton at 4000 ft. It has been snowing a lot, and it’s been really windy and there’s a shit ton of snow. In some spots, there’s 4 feet, in some spots there’s a foot. Wherever you ski, there’s a shit ton of snow”

I think this would be a more effective snow report and prevent the endless debates over what we all know is a shit ton of snow, skewed heavy due to obvious marketing embellishments and lack of precise measurements when numerical values are put on it.
 

Yeah its becoming a thing now on the internet and social media.  Throwing out 16-24" like candy is essentially saying it snowed 1"/hr for 24 hours straight and while it does happen sometimes, there should be people drowning in snow at those amounts.

I mean 40" in 48 hours... I've measured that once here and if you get an honest 40" in 48 hours it is on a level that few can comprehend.  It is almost paralyzing.  It is not something that just gets tossed out there as a guess.  Like cars should be completely gone in the parking lot at a 30-40" storm.

And you are right, it is definitely the numbers that get people.  Everyone knows it's the most snow, but the number of people who I see posting online that have hit some variety of Bolton Valley, Stowe, Smuggs, and Jay this November... most are saying the amounts seem pretty similar.  I'd give Jay about 30% more just based on upslope climo as it moves north.  Just like the BV to Smuggs stretch usually sees about 30% more than Sugarbush/MRG.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Bolton was sporting some of the most either given their location and high base elevation like Jay's.