July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability

[SACRUS]

52 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

I was told that it was an I.T. issue, but no further details were provided.

Mind boggling how it cant publish the intra hour data  or show a live update, especially at such a major/critical reporting station.  

[SACRUS]

 

89/ 75 heat is on now.

[SACRUS]

 

watch for the border of PA/NY

 

[SACRUS]

 

Mostly sunny for the next hour or two before going partly / M cloudy

 

 

[Picard]

44 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

It's really crazy how different things feel with high vs low dews. I'll take 100+ with 50 dews over this crap any day 

Some interesting numbers from the NOAA/NWS weather calculator pages, and assuming a sea level pressure of 30"

Temp 95F, RH 20% = Dewpoint of 48 and associated Heat Index of 91.5F
Temp 95F, RH 55% = Dewpoint of 76 and associated Heat Index of 109F

Also, at high temperatures, relatively small jumps in the RH% value can make a BIG difference in the comfort level.

[LibertyBell]

22 minutes ago, winterwx21 said:

Yeah despite all that flooding a little less than 2 weeks ago, I'm back to watering the vegetable garden now. And when I cut the lawn yesterday there was dry dirt flying. It doesn't take long for the soil to dry out in the summer. I think we could use some rain here again. I'd like to see a downpour later today. People that have vegetable gardens don't like going too long without rain. You can water all you want, but nothing makes the plants grow like rain. 

Looks like rain will be moving in around 4 pm and last through about 6 pm, there will be a sharp 10 degree temperature drop between 3 and 4 when it comes in.

[LibertyBell]

4 minutes ago, Picard said:

Some interesting numbers from the NOAA/NWS weather calculator pages, and assuming a sea level pressure of 30"

Temp 95F, RH 20% = Dewpoint of 48 and associated Heat Index of 91.5F
Temp 95F, RH 55% = Dewpoint of 76 and associated Heat Index of 109F

Also, at high temperatures, relatively small jumps in the RH% value can make a BIG difference in the comfort level.

Check out July 5, 1999 when we had a temperature of 102 and a dew point of 45 here lol

 

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

Mostly sunny for the next hour or two before going partly / M cloudy

 

 

Looks like high temperatures will be at around 3 pm before a sharp drop off with the rain coming in by 4.

 

[LibertyBell]

21 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Certainly getting all that much rain at once is less preferable for soil concerns than 1 to 2" a week. If imagine much of it ran off 

Yeah around 1 inch of rain per week (preferably at night) is probably ideal.

[LibertyBell]

47 minutes ago, winterwarlock said:

Imby didnt hit 90 until 6/19. Since 6/19 I have a total of 20 90 degree days. That is 20 out of last 36 days of 90 plus. Today will add to that list. I have had 4 heatwaves...2 3 days variety and 2 of 4 days. Hottest day was 6/24 at 100. Since 6/19 27 of 36 days have recorded a max dew of 75 plus with the peak of 83 on 6/23 and 7/8. Hottest July day was 94 on July 8

 

Total July rainfall is 6.01 inches...more than half of which fell on 7/14

and you'll add three more with the heatwave next week, Tuesday might be hotter than today (with no rain and maybe not even any clouds).

[SACRUS]

2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

and you'll add three more with the heatwave next week, Tuesday might be hotter than today (with no rain and maybe not even any clouds).

Beyond the 30th we are likely 90-less till Aug 7/8th.  At this point - we'll see if seasonal trend is for more correction to warmer in the east.

[SACRUS]

Now none of the sites are updating the 1051 - 11 AM readings.   

 

90 / 75 here

[Stormlover74]

3 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Now none of the sites are updating the 1051 - 11 AM readings.   

 

90 / 75 here

Mmu is 88 so ewr must be at least 92

[BobbyHolikWillFindYou]

92.3 with a 100.6 real feel showing on my Logia screen. Seems accurate based off my 5 minute plant watering adventure. Yeesh.

[winterwx21]

Already 92 here. Dewpoint is 74. I think we'll hit 98 or 99 for the high temp here. 

[Roger Smith]

Interesting about the extended Newark data, can somebody have a look and give an idea of lowest temperatures in Jan 1857 and Feb 1855? Also hottest of 1854 and 1868? I think these could prove to be the extremes to be added to NYC span.

[winterwarlock]

90/81/108

[LibertyBell]

47 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Beyond the 30th we are likely 90-less till Aug 7/8th.  At this point - we'll see if seasonal trend is for more correction to warmer in the east.

it's already up to 92 here at noon

[LibertyBell]

28 minutes ago, winterwx21 said:

Already 92 here. Dewpoint is 74. I think we'll hit 98 or 99 for the high temp here. 

92 here now too

[jm1220]

95/75. Atrocious. 

[Sundog]

3 hours ago, SACRUS said:

 

Why does it always feel like fronts move through the northern tier in the morning and get to the coast in the late afternoon or evening? At least during the summer months. 

 

[Sundog]

3 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

95/75. Atrocious. 

I have 96/76 feels like 110F

Lovely 

[Picard]

2 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

I was told that it was an I.T. issue, but no further details were provided.

I don't quite understand this either.  Take an example of Andover-Aeroflex Airport, which is just a quick skip away from me.
They only report at :54 past the hour.  Sussex airport is :53 past the hour and sometimes reports the whole degree and sometimes to the tenths of a degree without rhyme or reason.
Morristown Airport seems all over the place with it's timestaps.  Furthermore, they seem to round off to the nearest whole °C which is not precise.
Most odd of all, Andover-Aeroflex has also recorded 4 inches of rain in the past 3 days according to their stream, which is simply false.

Seems like these NWS data feeds are elementary at best, which is inexcusable in 2025.  If I were running some kind of study or analysis, this data would be unreliable in a lot of cases.  It seems like something C students would turn in as part of a middle school science project.

[MJO812]

Its disgusting outside . Feel bad for my wife since she is pregnant. 

93 here

[psv88]

93/77 at home. 
 

78 and breezy here in Newport, RI. 

[Stormlover74]

20 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Its disgusting outside . Feel bad for my wife since she is pregnant. 

93 here

Congrats!

[steve392]

Sitting in shade with breeze makes it somewhat tolerable outside...somewhat

[LibertyBell]

23 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Its disgusting outside . Feel bad for my wife since she is pregnant. 

93 here

I hope she's in a/c

It made it to 93 here but it's leveled off since.

[LibertyBell]

27 minutes ago, Picard said:

I don't quite understand this either.  Take an example of Andover-Aeroflex Airport, which is just a quick skip away from me.
They only report at :54 past the hour.  Sussex airport is :53 past the hour and sometimes reports the whole degree and sometimes to the tenths of a degree without rhyme or reason.
Morristown Airport seems all over the place with it's timestaps.  Furthermore, they seem to round off to the nearest whole °C which is not precise.
Most odd of all, Andover-Aeroflex has also recorded 4 inches of rain in the past 3 days according to their stream, which is simply false.

Seems like these NWS data feeds are elementary at best, which is inexcusable in 2025.  If I were running some kind of study or analysis, this data would be unreliable in a lot of cases.  It seems like something C students would turn in as part of a middle school science project.

they should just let wunderground run all their stuff

[donsutherland1]

26 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Its disgusting outside . Feel bad for my wife since she is pregnant. 

93 here

Congratulations on your wife’s pregnancy.