May 2025

[LibertyBell]

5 hours ago, SACRUS said:

 

Highs:

 

ACY: 85
PHL: 82
BLM: 81
EWR: 81
New Brnswck: 80
JFK: 80* (no intra hour highs registered)
TTN: 79
TEB: 79
LGA: 79
ISP: 78
NYC: 77

what does it mean no intra hour highs registered, Tony?

[LibertyBell]

6 hours ago, Sundog said:

Beautiful 

not if it's raining =\

my main beef with maps like this is they don't show sky conditions and that's what really defines how good a day is.

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

The issue gets worse and worse. Wait until the first heatwave and it’s 92+ at every station but 89 at the Park and the media reports 89. It’s a big pet peeve of mine because it’s not the reality of the experience of the everyday person. 

I wouldn't go by LGA temps either, they are usually lower than JFK on a land breeze.

 

[LibertyBell]

5 hours ago, Sundog said:

Bust on high temps today? I thought we were supposed to be around 75 as of last night's forecast?

On another note, it seems Central Park is going to be totally irrelevant for the foreseeable future. 

 

Today was perfect, nice land breeze, low humidity, warm.... the only thing that interrupted the party was those clouds that unexpectedly moved in.  We need a nice high to keep that stuff suppressed to the south where it belongs.

[bluewave]

Looks like another over the top warm up this week. We could actually see the heaviest rains to our south instead of to the north which is different from the recent pattern. Then we cool down closer to average for late May with the wet pattern continuing. 
 

May 12-19

May 19-26

[LibertyBell]

12 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Looks like another over the top warm up this week. We could actually see the heaviest rains to our south instead of to the north which is different from the recent pattern. Then we cool down closer to average for late May with the wet pattern continuing. 
 

May 12-19

May 19-26

Less wet would be so much better, today is absolutely perfect.

I have my suspicions that the *wet* pattern won't be as wet as these forecasts because it really goes against climo and what we've been seeing for many months now. We might see a few less than one inch rainfall events, like we have been, but nothing big.

[SACRUS]

 

66 / 37 clear / mostly sunny.  Likely the nicest driest/sunniest of the next 6 days (thru Sat).   Trough cuts off over the south east and slowly drifts north Tue - Fri with scattered showers, rain, clouds and cooler Tue - Wed, then warmer more humid Thu/Fri with rainfall 1 - 2 inches.  Sat is iffy with front coming through and potential storms - not a washout.  By Sunday back to 80.  5/19 - 5/25 looks near normal with trough into the east.  Still think we may squeeze a brief hot day or two in the final 1/3 of the month but overall near normal close as is forecast now.

 

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 92 (1959)
NYC: 93 (1881)
LGA: 88 (1991)
JFK: 89 (1991)


Lows:

EWR: 40 (1938)
 NYC: 40 (1907)
LGA: 43 (1940)
JFK: 43 (2020)


Historical:

 

1760:  Ben Franklin was the first person to identify nor'easters. In a letter on this date, Franklin described an experience that happened to him in November 1743 when storm clouds in Philadelphia blocked his view of an eclipse. Franklin assumed that the storm had blown in from the northeast because the surface winds at his location were from that direction. He was puzzled to find out later that his brother had viewed the eclipse with no problems and that the storm had arrived in Boston four hours later. The information caused Franklin to correctly surmise that the storm had moved from southwest to northeast.

 

1834: Unusual snows occurred across the Northeast. 6 inches fell at Erie, PA and 12 inches at Rutland, VT from this date through the 15th.
 

1876:  The first American newspaper weather map was published in the New York Herald. Weather maps would first appear on a regular basis beginning on May 9, 1879 in the New York Daily Graphic.

1934 - A dust storm darkened skies from Oklahoma to the Atlantic coast. (David Ludlum)

1971 - Duststorms suddenly reduced visibilities to near zero on Interstate Highway 10 near Casa Grande AZ. Chain reaction accidents involving cars and trucks resulted, killing seven persons. (The Weather Channel)

1972 - In Texas, A cloudburst dumped sixteen inches of rain north of New Braunfels sending a thirty foot wall of water down Blueders Creek into the Comal and Guadalupe Rivers washing away people, houses and automobiles. The flood claimed 18 lives and caused more than twenty million dollars damage. (The Weather Channel)

1982 - A late season snowstorm struck the Front Range of the Colorado Rockies. The storm produced 46 inches of snow at Coal Creek Canyon, located near Boulder. (David Ludlum)

1987 - A heat wave persisted in central California. Afternoon highs of 100 degrees at Fresno CA and 102 degrees at Sacramento CA were records for the date. (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - Unseasonably warm weather prevailed in the western U.S. Eight cities reported record high temperatures for the date, including Pendleton OR with a high of 92 degrees and Phoenix AZ with a reading of 106 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Showers and thunderstorms associated with a low pressure system stalled over New York State drenched Portland ME with 4.50 inches of rain in 24 hours. Rains of 5 to 7 inches soaked the state of Maine over a four day period causing 1.3 million dollars damage. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from eastern Texas and the Central Gulf Coast States into Missouri and Illinois. Thunderstorms spawned six tornadoes, including one which injured four persons at Doloroso MS. Thunderstorms also produced hail three inches in diameter west of Vicksburg MS, and wind gusts to 83 mph in southern Illinois, north of Vevay Park and at the Coles County Airport. High winds and heavy rain caused 1.6 million dollars crop damage in Calhoun County IL, and in southeastern Louisiana, Saint Joseph was deluged with eight inches of rain. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

[SACRUS]

54 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Looks like another over the top warm up this week. We could actually see the heaviest rains to our south instead of to the north which is different from the recent pattern. Then we cool down closer to average for late May with the wet pattern continuing. 
 

 

 

 

heaviest rains over the southeast next 5 days through Friday then front on Saturday could bring storms to the area.

 

[Dark Star]

9 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

The issue gets worse and worse. Wait until the first heatwave and it’s 92+ at every station but 89 at the Park and the media reports 89. It’s a big pet peeve of mine because it’s not the reality of the experience of the everyday person. 

Perhaps local major media "meteorologists" should climb aboard and not use Central Park temps?  I know, wishful thinking...

[Brian5671]

2 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

Perhaps local major media "meteorologists" should climb aboard and not use Central Park temps?  I know, wishful thinking...

We have the same issue here-Bridgeport's stats come from an airport on a peninsula that sticks out into the sound-it's routinely 55 there and 70 just a few miles inland....in the winter much warmer than surrounding areas-not really representative of what most people experience sensible weather wise.

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, Brian5671 said:

We have the same issue here-Bridgeport's stats come from an airport on a peninsula that sticks out into the sound-it's routinely 55 there and 70 just a few miles inland....in the winter much warmer than surrounding areas-not really representative of what most people experience sensible weather wise.

snowfall totals seem to be off too

[LibertyBell]

5 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

Perhaps local major media "meteorologists" should climb aboard and not use Central Park temps?  I know, wishful thinking...

their wind speeds are also too low and by a wide margin

[LibertyBell]

58 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

heaviest rains over the southeast next 5 days through Friday then front on Saturday could bring storms to the area.

 

looks like we get a sunny Sunday though :-)

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 92 (1959)
NYC: 93 (1881)
LGA: 88 (1991)
JFK: 89 (1991)


Lows:

EWR: 40 (1938)
 NYC: 40 (1907)
LGA: 43 (1940)
JFK: 43 (2020)


Historical:

 

1760:  Ben Franklin was the first person to identify nor'easters. In a letter on this date, Franklin described an experience that happened to him in November 1743 when storm clouds in Philadelphia blocked his view of an eclipse. Franklin assumed that the storm had blown in from the northeast because the surface winds at his location were from that direction. He was puzzled to find out later that his brother had viewed the eclipse with no problems and that the storm had arrived in Boston four hours later. The information caused Franklin to correctly surmise that the storm had moved from southwest to northeast.

 

1834: Unusual snows occurred across the Northeast. 6 inches fell at Erie, PA and 12 inches at Rutland, VT from this date through the 15th.
 

1876:  The first American newspaper weather map was published in the New York Herald. Weather maps would first appear on a regular basis beginning on May 9, 1879 in the New York Daily Graphic.

1934 - A dust storm darkened skies from Oklahoma to the Atlantic coast. (David Ludlum)

1971 - Duststorms suddenly reduced visibilities to near zero on Interstate Highway 10 near Casa Grande AZ. Chain reaction accidents involving cars and trucks resulted, killing seven persons. (The Weather Channel)

1972 - In Texas, A cloudburst dumped sixteen inches of rain north of New Braunfels sending a thirty foot wall of water down Blueders Creek into the Comal and Guadalupe Rivers washing away people, houses and automobiles. The flood claimed 18 lives and caused more than twenty million dollars damage. (The Weather Channel)

1982 - A late season snowstorm struck the Front Range of the Colorado Rockies. The storm produced 46 inches of snow at Coal Creek Canyon, located near Boulder. (David Ludlum)

1987 - A heat wave persisted in central California. Afternoon highs of 100 degrees at Fresno CA and 102 degrees at Sacramento CA were records for the date. (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - Unseasonably warm weather prevailed in the western U.S. Eight cities reported record high temperatures for the date, including Pendleton OR with a high of 92 degrees and Phoenix AZ with a reading of 106 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Showers and thunderstorms associated with a low pressure system stalled over New York State drenched Portland ME with 4.50 inches of rain in 24 hours. Rains of 5 to 7 inches soaked the state of Maine over a four day period causing 1.3 million dollars damage. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from eastern Texas and the Central Gulf Coast States into Missouri and Illinois. Thunderstorms spawned six tornadoes, including one which injured four persons at Doloroso MS. Thunderstorms also produced hail three inches in diameter west of Vicksburg MS, and wind gusts to 83 mph in southern Illinois, north of Vevay Park and at the Coles County Airport. High winds and heavy rain caused 1.6 million dollars crop damage in Calhoun County IL, and in southeastern Louisiana, Saint Joseph was deluged with eight inches of rain. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1760:  Ben Franklin was the first person to identify nor'easters. In a letter on this date, Franklin described an experience that happened to him in November 1743 when storm clouds in Philadelphia blocked his view of an eclipse. Franklin assumed that the storm had blown in from the northeast because the surface winds at his location were from that direction. He was puzzled to find out later that his brother had viewed the eclipse with no problems and that the storm had arrived in Boston four hours later. The information caused Franklin to correctly surmise that the storm had moved from southwest to northeast.

 

It would be interesting to find out if this was a lunar or a solar eclipse?

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

9 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

Perhaps local major media "meteorologists" should climb aboard and not use Central Park temps?  I know, wishful thinking...

Lee Goldberg has mentioned the Park not being representative. But it’s still the go to for apps, which is where like 90% of people get their weather info now.

[FPizz]

20 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Lee Goldberg has mentioned the Park not being representative. But it’s still the go to for apps, which is where like 90% of people get their weather info now.

Do you think anyone cares if it says 89 vs 90 on an app?  I highly doubt it.  Both are hot and people will be wearing shorts minus nycsnow who will be wearing a light hoodie.  Only a few weather enthusiasts really care.  The same people that see 89 on an app also quote their cars when it says 95 when it is really 88.  

[SACRUS]

 

EWR most 90 degree days in May was 6 in 1991.

[SACRUS]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

looks like we get a sunny Sunday though :-)

Saturday may not be that bad or a washout, maybe some storms with the front at some point.

[bluewave]

41 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

EWR most 90 degree days in May was 6 in 1991.

Yeah, spring 90° days at Newark have been increasing at a much slower rate than 50° and 60° days during the winter.

https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/plotting/auto/?_wait=no&q=74&network=NJCLIMATE&station=NJTEWR&season=winter&dir=above&var=high&threshold=50&year=1893&_r=t&dpi=100&_fmt=png

[Sundog]

45 minutes ago, FPizz said:

Do you think anyone cares if it says 89 vs 90 on an app?  I highly doubt it.  Both are hot and people will be wearing shorts minus nycsnow who will be wearing a light hoodie.  Only a few weather enthusiasts really care.  The same people that see 89 on an app also quote their cars when it says 95 when it is really 88.  

if it was -3 people would act like an ice age had come. If it's +3 people don't even react anymore. 

So just for that reason we should clear all the greenery around the station so people stop acting like it's not warming up lol 

[Brian5671]

1 minute ago, Sundog said:

if it was -3 people would act like an ice age had come. If it's +3 people don't even react anymore. 

So just for that reason we should clear all the greenery around the station so people stop acting like it's not warming up lol 

If anyone truly believes we haven't warmed in the last 20 yrs they need to get their head checked...

[Sundog]

And Newark might be hotter than anyone else but does that mean it's inaccurate? We know Central Park is inaccurate, unless you think Manhattan has a climate closer to JFK's all of a sudden hahahahaha

The area around Newark is either water/marshes or suburbia. It's not likle a massive city sprung up around the airport over the last 30 years. 

And daytime temps aren't affected by UHI anyway really.

That area of NJ is the hottest part of the area, whether it was rural or urban. 

 

[FPizz]

13 minutes ago, Sundog said:

if it was -3 people would act like an ice age had come. If it's +3 people don't even react anymore. 

So just for that reason we should clear all the greenery around the station so people stop acting like it's not warming up lol 

He brought up a temp from app. No one cares about an arbitrary # that the weather community uses.  If it is 89 or 90, not a single person in the world would change anything in their lives including you.  No one also cares if it 35 or 33 on an app.   

[SACRUS]

8 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

what does it mean no intra hour highs registered, Tony?

Every 6 hour the updated intra hour between the hour maxes and minimums update.  JFK missed yesterday afternoons

It happened alot last year too.

 

https://forecast.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KJFK.html

[SACRUS]

41 minutes ago, Sundog said:

And Newark might be hotter than anyone else but does that mean it's inaccurate? We know Central Park is inaccurate, unless you think Manhattan has a climate closer to JFK's all of a sudden hahahahaha

The area around Newark is either water/marshes or suburbia. It's not likle a massive city sprung up around the airport over the last 30 years. 

And daytime temps aren't affected by UHI anyway really.

That area of NJ is the hottest part of the area, whether it was rural or urban. 

 

Id also look into TTN seeming to have a cooler bias of late (last 4-5 years or so)

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

 

EWR most 90 degree days in May was 6 in 1991.

That was one of our hottest summers on record, which more of them happened in the 90s than any other decade.

[LibertyBell]

49 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, spring 90° days at Newark have been increasing at a much slower rate than 50° and 60° days during the winter.

https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/plotting/auto/?_wait=no&q=74&network=NJCLIMATE&station=NJTEWR&season=winter&dir=above&var=high&threshold=50&year=1893&_r=t&dpi=100&_fmt=png

1991 and 1993 were two of our hottest summers on record so it's not a surprise to see we had many more 90 degree days back then.

[LibertyBell]

49 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

If anyone truly believes we haven't warmed in the last 20 yrs they need to get their head checked...

it's a nuanced argument that can presented many different ways.

of course it's warming but....

1) winters are warming much more quickly than summers are

2) summer high temps are capped by the planet self regulating the excess heat by dumping it into the ocean, thus we're not getting the higher number of 90 degree days that we used to.

3) if you go by averages it does not matter either way, since mins are going up much faster than the maxes are.

4) the way I define heat as in number of 90 and 100 degree days and length of heat waves is only going up for areas well inland.

 

[Stormlover74]

Models seem to be showing about an inch of rain this week particularly nyc on south and west which would give areas that still need some rain a good soaking