2025-2026 ENSO

[KakashiHatake2000]

it really all has to go and come down to the more funding though

[michsnowfreak]

3 hours ago, FPizz said:

Shows how sharp cutoffs can be in this area.  I live pretty much dead even between NYC and Philly, and that same 7 year average here is 22.375" or pretty much 8" more than NYC and JFK.  My worst stretch here was 96/97 through 01/02 (6 years), the average was only 17.3".  8 out of the 10 years in the 90s were complete trash as well.  Those 8 years averaged only 17", but 93/94 and 95/96 bumped the decade average up to 27" since those 2 were amazing winters.  08/09-14/15 averaged 41.6", which is my best stretch here.  Way too many sweeping generalizations get posted in here.  

Definitely lots if generalizations haha. 

The current 7 year avg for Detroit is 36.6". Below avg but nothing eye popping at all (1880-2025 avg is 41"). Nothing close to lowest.

The highest 7 year average was 59.8", ending in 2014. (I averaged 61.1"!)

The lowest 7 year average was 26.5", ending in 1950.

The 1990s were crap here. Very similar to the 1950s. As someone who's school years spanned the 1990s its crazy how much more snow I remember in college and beyond than growing up (the anti old-timer).

 

[PhiEaglesfan712]

The most amazing thing about that 7/8-year stretch from 08-09/09-10 to 15-16 is that we put up those snow totals despite having 2 years with virtually no snow in the middle. Imagine how much more those snow totals could have been if we got anything in 11-12 and 12-13.

PHL could set a record for the lowest 10-year running average snowfall in 25-26. Anything less than 13.4 inches would break the record of 13.2 inches average from 1922-23 to 1931-32.

[LibertyBell]

3 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

Definitely lots if generalizations haha. 

The current 7 year avg for Detroit is 36.6". Below avg but nothing eye popping at all (1880-2025 avg is 41"). Nothing close to lowest.

The highest 7 year average was 59.8", ending in 2014. (I averaged 61.1"!)

The lowest 7 year average was 26.5", ending in 1950.

The 1990s were crap here. Very similar to the 1950s. As someone who's school years spanned the 1990s its crazy how much more snow I remember in college and beyond than growing up (the anti old-timer).

 

and yet we still have not had winters like 1993-94 and 1995-96 and 2002-03 here in terms of wall to wall snow and wall to wall cold.

2002-03 was the last of those winters here.

 

[LibertyBell]

36 minutes ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said:

The most amazing thing about that 7/8-year stretch from 08-09/09-10 to 15-16 is that we put up those snow totals despite having 2 years with virtually no snow in the middle. Imagine how much more those snow totals could have been if we got anything in 11-12 and 12-13.

PHL could set a record for the lowest 10-year running average snowfall in 25-26. Anything less than 13.4 inches would break the record of 13.2 inches average from 1922-23 to 1931-32.

But none of those were wall to wall winters.

08-09 was decent but mostly had small events, January was dry and cold

09-10 ended after February

10-11 ended after January

13-14 ended after February

14-15 began on January 20

15-16 started on January 20 and ended on February 20

 

None of these measure up to 93-94, 95-96 and 02-03.

[PhiEaglesfan712]

13-14 and 14-15 were wall-to-wall winters, or at least very close. Both were very cold and snowy from at least January to March, with each having a cold November, and 13-14 a taste of winter in early December (before a 2nd half of the month thaw).

08-09 definitely felt like a longer winter than 09-10 and 10-11. It's just that the cold and snow didn't come hand-in-hand. The cold was there in October-January, but the two snow events happened in early February (this one was more isolated) and early March (the Nor'easter).

Of course, 15-16 was saved by the massive snowstorm. Otherwise, it would have been another warm and snowless winter that has become more commonplace since 11-12.