Met1985 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, GaWx said: Very fwiw esp due to a cold bias tendency, but the Euro weekly for 5/13-20 is this: Gfs got it too Larry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 46 minutes ago, Met1985 said: Gfs got it too Larry. Yes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 23 hours ago, Met1985 said: Gfs got it too Larry. Today’s Euro weekly is similarly BN for 5/13-20. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 1 hour ago, GaWx said: Today’s Euro weekly is similarly BN for 5/13-20. Euro and GFS continue to show this upcoming pattern change. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 On 5/3/2024 at 8:12 PM, GaWx said: Very fwiw esp due to a cold bias tendency, but the Euro weekly for 5/13-20 is this: Keeping in mind my mention in this quoted post of “fwiw esp due to a cold bias tendency”, note how much warmer is today’s Euro Weekly throughout the US for 5/13-20 (just 3 days later)! @Met1985 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 3 hours ago, GaWx said: Keeping in mind my mention in this quoted post of “fwiw esp due to a cold bias tendency”, note how much warmer is today’s Euro Weekly throughout the US for 5/13-20 (just 3 days later)! @Met1985 Yeah it definitely doesn't look as cool but I still think we see a few good cold shots to at least temper the heat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonSalemArlington Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 My kind of late spring https://x.com/meteomark/status/1794000825603244317?s=46&t=5ny5bPgiX5Vy3bQMvYTY5g 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonSalemArlington Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Up to mid June https://x.com/meteomark/status/1795775693139144829?s=46&t=5ny5bPgiX5Vy3bQMvYTY5g 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazdaddy Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Looks like the tropical forum has been hacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 2 hours ago, frazdaddy said: Looks like the tropical forum has been hacked. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonSalemArlington Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Is a mild summer possible with La Niña? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOvuEx-W8AA-7di?format=png&name=900x900 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wncsnow Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 minute ago, WinstonSalemArlington said: Is a mild summer possible with La Niña? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOvuEx-W8AA-7di?format=png&name=900x900 Don't worry it will flip just in time for winter. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonSalemArlington Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 17 minutes ago, wncsnow said: Don't worry it will flip just in time for winter. Bingo! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonSalemArlington Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 These dewpoints though https://x.com/seckhardt/status/1796287181662597201?s=46&t=5ny5bPgiX5Vy3bQMvYTY5g 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartman Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 On 5/30/2024 at 10:44 AM, WinstonSalemArlington said: Is a mild summer possible with La Niña? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOvuEx-W8AA-7di?format=png&name=900x900 If a cold summer followed an El Nino winter (which doesn't happen often like 1992), then expect the upcoming winter to be either Neutral or a 2nd-year Niño. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upstate Tiger Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 I posted in obs that it was 47 this morning in West Lincoln County. Pretty amazing to be less than 5 weeks from July 4. Love it. Pic from last evening sitting on deck waiting on deer. Almost needed a sweater. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonSalemArlington Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 44 minutes ago, Upstate Tiger said: I posted in obs that it was 47 this morning in West Lincoln County. Pretty amazing to be less than 5 weeks from July 4. Love it. Pic from last evening sitting on deck waiting on deer. Almost needed a sweater. Last evening while walking out, I felt that “nip in the air” feeling of October. It will be back to stay in less than four months. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 On 5/30/2024 at 10:46 AM, wncsnow said: Don't worry it will flip just in time for winter. Yep La Nina means a 3rd consecutive snowless winter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonSalemArlington Posted Sunday at 08:08 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:08 PM Juneteenth pattern change? https://x.com/bamwxcom/status/1797356385329455502?s=46&t=5ny5bPgiX5Vy3bQMvYTY5g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted Tuesday at 12:00 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:00 PM On 6/1/2024 at 4:15 PM, eyewall said: Yep La Nina means a 3rd consecutive snowless winter. El Niño La Niña, doesn’t matter, there’s nothing we can get snow from anymore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted Tuesday at 01:26 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:26 PM 1 hour ago, NorthHillsWx said: El Niño La Niña, doesn’t matter, there’s nothing we can get snow from anymore Yep and it is clear why although if I say it in this thread the mods might get mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted Tuesday at 06:45 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:45 PM 5 hours ago, eyewall said: Yep and it is clear why although if I say it in this thread the mods might get mad. Climate change or the extremely strong pac jet? Or the higher water temps in the gulf? To me seems like there are several variables and not just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevo Posted Tuesday at 07:05 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:05 PM 19 minutes ago, Met1985 said: Climate change or the extremely strong pac jet? Or the higher water temps in the gulf? To me seems like there are several variables and not just one. There is the school of thought out there that 2 of those issues come from the same parent so to speak. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted Wednesday at 01:08 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:08 AM Models showing quite a bit of rain across Central Florida in the 6-10 day time frame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wncsnow Posted Wednesday at 01:40 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:40 AM 6 hours ago, Met1985 said: Climate change or the extremely strong pac jet? Or the higher water temps in the gulf? To me seems like there are several variables and not just one. A lot of respected mets say climate change is a big reason why some of those things are happening. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted Wednesday at 06:55 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:55 AM 5 hours ago, wncsnow said: A lot of respected mets say climate change is a big reason why some of those things are happening. I don’t want to get into the CC debate but when you look at the east coast as a whole, the record sea temps, and some pattern anomalies that seem to have more influence over our ability to snow than in years past, there’s a reason the entire east coast is in rarified air when it comes to snow droughts extending multi-years. There’s a very strong argument that our fragile baseline state for snow (usually 32-33 degrees through the column even for some major events in the past) may be too warm now simply bc the water temps storms have to work with warm us above that fragile dance. There’s a reason that in the south at least there hasn’t been a coastal storm since 2017 outside some areas of the triad in 2018 that didn’t end up raining. The few snows we’ve had since then have all come from modes other coastals. Watch our 100, 50 year averages decline and you start to realize this is a very strong trend. Seeing your average snow decrease from 7 to 5” over 50 years may not sound like a lot but losing 30% of your seasonal total on average means a lot of snowless years will come given 1 storm can send you above that. I worry we may be shattering snow drought records by the end of this season. Now I know it can still snow and all this is thrown out the table for a while if we do luck into one so I’ll be right there tracking once November rolls around, but the long term trends and prospects for snow in the future are pretty bleak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upstate Tiger Posted Wednesday at 07:46 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:46 PM 12 hours ago, NorthHillsWx said: I don’t want to get into the CC debate but when you look at the east coast as a whole, the record sea temps, and some pattern anomalies that seem to have more influence over our ability to snow than in years past, there’s a reason the entire east coast is in rarified air when it comes to snow droughts extending multi-years. There’s a very strong argument that our fragile baseline state for snow (usually 32-33 degrees through the column even for some major events in the past) may be too warm now simply bc the water temps storms have to work with warm us above that fragile dance. There’s a reason that in the south at least there hasn’t been a coastal storm since 2017 outside some areas of the triad in 2018 that didn’t end up raining. The few snows we’ve had since then have all come from modes other coastals. Watch our 100, 50 year averages decline and you start to realize this is a very strong trend. Seeing your average snow decrease from 7 to 5” over 50 years may not sound like a lot but losing 30% of your seasonal total on average means a lot of snowless years will come given 1 storm can send you above that. I worry we may be shattering snow drought records by the end of this season. Now I know it can still snow and all this is thrown out the table for a while if we do luck into one so I’ll be right there tracking once November rolls around, but the long term trends and prospects for snow in the future are pretty bleak I think you make some valid points. I have been closely following the winter weather in this area since 76/77 when I was 12. There were some epic winters from 76/77 - 82/83. After that, it seemed winter storms became less frequent throughout the remainder of the 80's. Yes we had the epic cold snap in January of 85 and the big dogs in Janaury of 87 & 88, but that was about it. I kept thinking this is just a pattern change like the 50's and it would snap back like it did in the 60's. But, it didn't happen in the 90's either. We had the Super Storm in 93. 95/96 was very reminicent of the "old pattern" Anyway, the climate, as it always has, is changing and is not the same as 50 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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