Itstrainingtime Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: Eh I hear you but we've still had plenty of wicked winter bouts. Winter of 2103-2014 featured incredible cold and snow. Jan through March of 2015 also comes to mind, was the coldest such period in history for our area. We also had 364 consecutive hours of being below freezing from 12/25/17 to 1/9/18. Lord knows we still get our fair share of big snowstorms as well. I understand the consistency may not be there and the last couple winters haven't been great but they still come around. Keep the faith! I had one 12' plus storm in the 70s. I think one, two at the most in the 80s. 2 more in the 90s. Since 2000 - there's been at least 7 off the top of my head. The frequency has increased. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Itstrainingtime said: I had one 12' plus storm in the 70s. I think one, two at the most in the 80s. 2 more in the 90s. Since 2000 - there's been at least 7 off the top of my head. The frequency has increased. 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomixwx Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, sauss06 said: it was cold. i'd have to check my notes, but i believe we already had some snow on the ground prior to the PDII storm. We did. From the Friday prior. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: Eh I hear you but we've still had plenty of wicked winter bouts. Winter of 2103-2014 featured incredible cold and snow. Jan through March of 2015 also comes to mind, was the coldest such period in history for our area. We also had 364 consecutive hours of being below freezing from 12/25/17 to 1/9/18. Lord knows we still get our fair share of big snowstorms as well. I understand the consistency may not be there and the last couple winters haven't been great but they still come around. Keep the faith! I predict a rebuttal from someone on the bolded :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: Eh I hear you but we've still had plenty of wicked winter bouts. Winter of 2103-2014 featured incredible cold and snow. Jan through March of 2015 also comes to mind, was the coldest such period in history for our area. We also had 364 consecutive hours of being below freezing from 12/25/17 to 1/9/18. Lord knows we still get our fair share of big snowstorms as well. I understand the consistency may not be there and the last couple winters haven't been great but they still come around. Keep the faith! Yep keeping faith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 Only one night at or below freezing on the 12Z GFS panels through next weekend. One thing this does is limits any chance of typical ice skating scenes on ponds this winter (yet again). Having nothing frozen over late into Dec. That is one BIG difference from our visions of winters past...especially in movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Only one night at or below freezing on the 12Z GFS panels through next weekend. One thing this does is limits any chance of typical ice skating scenes on ponds this winter (yet again). Having nothing frozen over late into Dec. That is one BIG difference from our visions of winters past...especially in movies. I'm only at 156 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: I had one 12' plus storm in the 70s. I think one, two at the most in the 80s. 2 more in the 90s. Since 2000 - there's been at least 7 off the top of my head. The frequency has increased. Correct, the frequency of large storms has increased but the consistency of more modest type events has seemed to decrease. It's funny, I was once working on a study comparing snow totals and types of events across many decades, with the main aim of tackling the notion of "winters were better back in the day" that we always hear so much about. Preliminarily, if I recall correctly, I found that there really wasn't the magnitude of difference in snow totals that people seem to think there is; however, unfortunately I let the project fall off and never finished it. Perhaps I'll pick it up again one day but babies make anything involving spare time difficult ha. One day..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, paweather said: I'm only at 156 Its out farther on pivotal...but through next weekend meaning into the weekend...a full week from today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 43 minutes ago, paweather said: The problem is we don't have the 90's winters anymore. A few winters of that decade were amazing, but the bad ones were incredibly bad. Kinda like the 2010s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, TimB84 said: A few winters of that decade were amazing, but the bad ones were incredibly bad. Kinda like the 2010s. Super torch on the 12Z GFS is more Thur and Fri than Sat now...for next weekend. 60's at 9Z here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, TimB84 said: A few winters of that decade were amazing, but the bad ones were incredibly bad. Kinda like the 2010s. I think it was 97-98 that was the worst. Sub 10" for the entire winter and no snowfall greater than 2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: Correct, the frequency of large storms has increased but the consistency of more modest type events has seemed to decrease. It's funny, I was once working on a study comparing snow totals and types of events across many decades, with the main aim of tackling the notion of "winters were better back in the day" that we always hear so much about. Preliminarily, if I recall correctly, I found that there really wasn't the magnitude of difference in snow totals that people seem to think there is; however, unfortunately I let the project fall off and never finished it. Perhaps I'll pick it up again one day but babies make anything involving spare time difficult ha. One day..... "Go big or go home" applies to our snow events as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Super torch on the 12Z GFS is more Thur and Fri than Sat now...for next weekend. 60's at 9Z here. GFS hasn’t really been on the Saturday heat train for next weekend, and hopefully that domino never falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: I think it was 97-98 that was the worst. Sub 10" for the entire winter and no snowfall greater than 2" The 240 hour AVN maps were flying off the shelves that year., 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: I think it was 97-98 that was the worst. Sub 10" for the entire winter and no snowfall greater than 2" Yeah that’s what I mean. People romanticize the ‘90s as having been a snow lover’s dream but it really wasn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 minute ago, TimB84 said: Yeah that’s what I mean. People romanticize the ‘90s as having been a snow lover’s dream but it really wasn’t. 80's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 yet another cutter at 258 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, paweather said: yet another cutter at 258 The proper way to handle those when posting is to say we need one of them to change the pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, Bubbler86 said: The proper way to handle those when posting is to say we need one of them to change the pattern. Cold air does pour in behind it. Who knows how long it’ll last. My guess is not long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, Bubbler86 said: The proper way to handle those when posting is to say we need one of them to change the pattern. Exactly! We definitely do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: The proper way to handle those when posting is to say we need one of them to change the pattern. My understanding coming into this winter season was that a lot of the snow we do get would likely result from cutting storms that produced snow to mix to rain scenarios. I think most experts are saying this will be a season full of cutters. We might really struggle for pure snow events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Meanwhile, back in 2015... I shot this pic 6 years ago today just before I mowed the grass...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, TimB84 said: Cold air does pour in behind it. Who knows how long it’ll last. My guess is not long. Quite cold the AM of Wed the 22nd which is the first day it gets below freezing again at MDT... after this Monday AM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said: My understanding coming into this winter season was that a lot of the snow we do get would likely result from cutting storms that produced snow to mix to rain scenarios. I think most experts are saying this will be a season full of cutters. We might really struggle for pure snow events. Like this one back in 2013: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, paweather said: Like this one back in 2013: G Bastardi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Itstrainingtime said: I had one 12' plus storm in the 70s. I think one, two at the most in the 80s. 2 more in the 90s. Since 2000 - there's been at least 7 off the top of my head. The frequency has increased. Heck, there were 2 storms last year that gave us 12” plus in most of the LSV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 Could be setting up for a 340+ hour bowling ball snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimB Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: G Bastardi? Joe’s long lost twin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard of 93 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, TimB84 said: Cold air does pour in behind it. Who knows how long it’ll last. My guess is not long. Lol, I love the optimism…. The pattern is changing after the 20th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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