SouthBuffaloSteve Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Can’t beat up on Allen after that game. Everyone always bashes his stat line... well he had more completions and more yards and less interceptions than the possible league MVP did today. WGR threw out a crazy stat line that out of Allen’s 39 attempts he was blitzed on 30 of them. The kid got the snot beat out of him today, the line played like garbage and Dabol didn’t adjust the game plan to counter this at all! Oh wait he did when we ran it 7 straight plays and marched down the field... but then back to the same old crap next drive. 1st and goal from the 1... Let Allen jump the pile for the TD!!!! Nope put old man Gore in and call a sweep play... I missed most of the 1st quarter so didn’t see the overthrows but later in the game his deep shots were actually pretty accurate the receivers just couldn’t make the plays. And yeah he took a lot of sacks today but I’d rather see that then winging the ball up there for a possible interception. Overall just a bad offensive game plan and a lack of execution. Defense though... They looked great! . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthBuffaloSteve Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Thing that stings the most is how typical of a “Buffalo” game that was. Played most of the game horribly but somehow managed to stay in it. We finally find a spark late in the game, pull off a few crazy plays to get ever so close to winning... and then bam get smacked right in the face back to reality. That and how we complained about the refs for 58 minutes of the game and then they hand us half the field in penalty yards on the last drive and we just couldn’t take advantage of it. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 19 minutes ago, WesterlyWx said: I will agree with you he has to get better throwing the ball away especially when in field goal range to make sure your not pushing your team out of field goal range. He missed some throws he could have made but regardless of why his receivers still had key drops in key moments. Him missing the wide open receivers seemed more like miscommunication of where his receiver was going to be in his route than just flat out throwing errantly. Like I said before I’m not saying he didn’t have a bad game but there’s way more blame here then just Allen. The entire offense including Dabolls play calling was not good at all. How many times did we go 3 and out with a predictable run on 1st down, run on 2nd down, throw on 3rd and long and then punt? Numerous times, including right after the Edmunds interception. To me that’s poor play calling and certainly has an effect on what they can do when Baltimore knows what they are going to do and can bring the house on a Blitz knowing it’s going to throw Allen off with poor blocking up front... Yeah and the predictable screen passes for a loss of 2, he did that 3 times this game. You knew it was coming every time. He is the weak link in our coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 4 hours ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said: Can’t beat up on Allen after that game. Everyone always bashes his stat line... well he had more completions and more yards and less interceptions than the possible league MVP did today. WGR threw out a crazy stat line that out of Allen’s 39 attempts he was blitzed on 30 of them. The kid got the snot beat out of him today, the line played like garbage and Dabol didn’t adjust the game plan to counter this at all! Oh wait he did when we ran it 7 straight plays and marched down the field... but then back to the same old crap next drive. 1st and goal from the 1... Let Allen jump the pile for the TD!!!! Nope put old man Gore in and call a sweep play... I missed most of the 1st quarter so didn’t see the overthrows but later in the game his deep shots were actually pretty accurate the receivers just couldn’t make the plays. And yeah he took a lot of sacks today but I’d rather see that then winging the ball up there for a possible interception. Overall just a bad offensive game plan and a lack of execution. Defense though... They looked great! . They'll QB sneak on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 2 all the time but on 1st and goal from the 6 inch line they try a sweep to the left off tackle! That really had me irked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicarious Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I'm not much of a football expert so I'm sure someone could show me incorrect going through the plays but here is my 2 cents. Allen seems like he can get himself over worked up to start the game, he is obviously very passionate and that is a good thing(unlike a cam newton) but he will over throw balls early on. He gets better as the game goes on which shows up with how well he does in the 4th. He is still growing as a player and I'm almost positive that the more games he plays the more this will go away. Allen can hang on to the ball and try and do to much, which i think has been getting better but still a work in progress. I know the ravens have a good D line but are O-line was a complete joke. If he wasn't sacked or moved out from the pocket they still got to him while trying to complete a pass on what seemed like most plays. I was really hoping to see some adjustments after the half but if they made any I couldn't really tell watching on tv. The drops need to really really really stop already. They are 3rd in the league with most dropped passes and I'm pretty sure that was before the game. When the ball is going literally right through your hands it's simply not acceptable at this level. We badly need some more help with WR and we are so lucky that injuries haven't really been a thing but imagine Cole or Brown being out a few games. Defense did as they have all season and props to them for keeping the game close. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: Taken from the Bills forums but this is a good break down on Allen today, he was pretty bad. "Allen was downright awful in the first half. While Baltimore's defense got pressure at times and even caused a fumble, Allen still had plenty of throws with time and to guys who were open. On the first three drives, he had a player open 20+ yards down field and missed him by almost 5+ yards each time. On two of them, I got the impression that Allen was assuming the receiver was going to break a different way. Regardless, two of them could have gone for touchdowns. If he hit even one of them, it's a very different game. In the second half, Allen had at least two plays where he held onto the ball for 5+ seconds and took a sack. one of them knocked us out of Field Goal range today. But like I said earlier, others contributed to his bad game with key drops. Knox dropped a pass because he was already looking downfield, but we still got 3. Singletary dropped one because he got excited about the open field ahead of him if he could beat one guy. Beasley technically dropped a deep pass, that yes a millionaire receiver should catch, but was still not easy. Overall, Allen hits just 10% more of his passes and we are either tied at the end or winning. He played bad against a good defense and I think even he will tell you that. but again, we had the ball with a chance to tie by the end." That sack at the end of the game...We were 3rd and 3 and he took a sack that resulted in a 14 yard loss. You have 2 plays to get 3 yards...He HAS to get better at throwing the ball away. Not to be the one that mentioned it to you earlier but Josh is a game manager. And what Th at means is he can make enough plays to help win a game but he needs a supporting cast to do it. If it weren't for this defense that plays lights out ball week in and week out, Josh would not be able to put the team on his back and throw for 380 and 4 tds to either win games or get into shoot outs with other qb's. He's the best we've had of a mediocre bunch but I believe this is what you'll get in his career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Back to the weather...which looks to be as bad as the bills offense yesterday right through Christmas. I think what's most concerning to me is we aren't torching but with each storm system we appear to be on the warm side. There isn't a strong Bermuda high and I know there isn't a -NAO or -AO to help suppress these systems a but and keep them from cutting to our west 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeyes_Suck Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said: Went to a house party last night in Lancaster, was shocked at how much snow they had on the ground there and the piles. We've had just grass here for awhile. They must have gotten hit pretty hard from that LES event. Went to the Bills game today, they played so well against the best team in the NFL. This team is actually legit, if Allen played decently we win that game. Lake effect event looks lamer every model run. Yep my snow pack is still there even this morning. Today might kill it off though. It was 8" of some of the densest snow ive ever moved. My tractor couldnt move it, and I have a frakenstein blower with a 13hp motor that normally flies through anything that I had to back off the speed on. Bills can win against anyone in the league this year, Allen just needs to settle down. I think he was worked up over this game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Wednesday a mid level trough and associated clipper low will pass well north of the area, with the clipper cold front crossing the eastern Great Lakes during the mid to late afternoon. The cold front itself will do little, with nothing more than a few light snow showers. It will introduce a more favorable lake effect environment however. Convergence along the advancing cold front will merge with pre-existing lake induced convergence over both lakes, resulting in intensifying bands of lake effect snow. Lake induced equilibrium levels will briefly rise to 10-12K feet with the passage of the clipper as moisture improves and a pool of cold air aloft crosses the eastern Great Lakes. A favorably deep mixed phase layer will be located within the cloud bearing layer, yielding dendritic growth. Off Lake Erie... Expect a band of relatively light lake effect snow showers to move north out of the Southern Tier and across Buffalo in the morning, ending up north of Buffalo across the Northtowns and Niagara County by late morning. This band will begin to move back south and east across the area by early to mid afternoon as the cold front reaches eastern Lake Erie. The band will intensify as it crosses the Buffalo area from a boost of synoptic support from the cold front, and increasing lake induced instability. The strong band will then move onshore from Buffalo all the way down to Chautauqua County and push inland through the Southern Tier through the late afternoon. The band of snow will continue for a few hours across the western Southern Tier Wednesday evening before quickly weakening as inversion heights lower, shear increases, and moisture decreases with high pressure building over Lake Erie. The fast pace of the southward band drift will greatly limit accumulations, even though the band of snow may become quite heavy. Early estimates suggest 2-4 inches from the Buffalo Metro area into portions of Genesee County, and 3-5 inches across the higher terrain of Southern Erie/Wyoming counties into the Chautauqua Ridge. Even though amounts will be limited, if the brief burst of heavy snow materializes it would produce very difficult travel for a few hours. Winds will also gust 30-35 knots around this time, producing blowing and drifting snow. Off Lake Ontario... Expect a similar trend just a few hours later. Tuesday morning disorganized lake effect snow showers over the lake will push to the northeast end to near Kingston Ontario, possibly clipping Cape Vincent in northern Jefferson County. The band of snow will then intensify during the mid to late afternoon as the cold front approaches and synoptic support/instability improve. This intensifying band of snow will then move southeast across Jefferson County, crossing the Tug Hill region during the evening. The band will reach maximum intensity during this time frame as the best lake parameters line up with a period of upslope flow across the Tug Hill. The band will continue to march steadily southeast overnight, with a WNW to ESE oriented band of weakening lake snow moving into northern Cayuga/Wayne counties. A few snow showers may also clip the south shore farther west overnight from eastern Niagara to Monroe counties as boundary layer flow veers. Similar to Lake Erie, the short residence time of the band in any one location will limit accumulations. Expect 2-4 or 3-5 inches across the lower elevations of the eastern Lake Ontario region, with up to 6 inches across the Tug Hill Plateau. Wayne and northern Cayuga counties may see a few inches overnight. While amounts are not overly impressive, this band may produce difficult travel for a few hours with heavy snow and 30-35 knot wind gusts producing blowing and drifting. Thursday a few lake effect snow showers may linger in the morning southeast of Lake Ontario with minor additional accumulations. High pressure will then build east across the eastern Great Lakes, ending the lake effect snow and bringing some partial clearing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Without that lake low winds wouldn't be out of the south with a storm system to our SE..Any way to fook us over lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Lol found a way to get the most rain in the region .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 Every indice going the wrong way. https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/forecasts/reforecast2/teleconn/forecast.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Synoptic storms are to hard to come by here lol Look at the 6z gfs, cutters or misses, nothing in between.. Been like that since I moved here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: Synoptic storms are to hard to come by here lol Look at the 6z gfs, cutters or misses, nothing in between.. Been like that since I moved here.. You've had 2 winter storm warnings already and its only Dec 9th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, wolfie09 said: Does anyone else see the strange numbers here compared to the AFD itself? Map says 4 to 6 the AFD says 2 to 4...guess those 2 Mets didn't speak to each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Do warnings count as verification? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 We have 24" this year from 7 events.. We have a Max of 7" from basically a 2 day system.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, Thinksnow18 said: Does anyone else see the strange numbers here compared to the AFD itself? Map says 4 to 6 the AFD says 2 to 4...guess those 2 Mets didn't speak to each other. Yeah, I noticed that too.. They kinda did the same east of Ontario.. Calling for 3'-5" lower elevations and 6"+ tug, but they have 6+ from here to Sandy Creek which is lower elevations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I've also noticed, just like last year the "expected snowfall" is pretty much the same as "high end" .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, wolfie09 said: Do warnings count as verification? Lol Just saying, central NY has had more WSW then anyone aside from upper peninsula of Michigan. Storms are going to track all over the place, you'll never get a consistent storm track each time. Still you're above average this year in snowfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Better positioning of HP could of yielded a decent run for mid month. Still close to 200 hrs out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I'm not so sure about that bro..I think we are where we should be ... November is like a 15" month and December 50"+ ..We are 1/3 through December.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 Day 10 on is a PAC flood on nearly all ENS. Let's see how much they change or we will be wearing shorts for Christmas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Day 10 on is a PAC flood on nearly all ENS. Let's see how much they change or we will be wearing shorts for Christmas. With this start to winter, that wouldn’t be surprising. I hope that isn’t the case. I really love a white Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 GEFS are a little colder but they've been cold bias for quite awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 Let the PAC flow through you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2010s...the decade for Christmas barbecues, Christmas shorts, and Christmas yard games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinksnow18 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said: Let the PAC flow through you. I haven't been overly impressed with the CPC the last 2 month's...the CPC touted November warm...wrong...they touted December warm and to this point wrong...there will be a lot of variability the next 2 eweeks but I'm not certain it equates to AN temps in the mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie09 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Not to be an ass here but this was last year Xmas morning.. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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