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Possible Dec 1-3 Winter Storm


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14 minutes ago, Enigma said:

This was a disaster of a forecast. No way around it. Anyone that has some semblance of forecast recognition knew that this was going to be a non-event for most in  this sub-forum.

You said that all along and stuck to it. Though I wouldn't call it a total non-event, and inch or two during commute coming down fast did have to be respected.  However, in years past, a storm of this level would not have been really newsworthy. Certainly when I started working in schools 30 years ago, it would not have merited an early dismissal. Why? We were less sophisticated and didn't have computer models printing up 8-12 all the time, scaring everyone half to death.

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1 minute ago, Big Jims Videos said:

There's no reason Western NJ should still be in a winter storm warning when no accumulating snow fell from Trenton to Princeton and now they're only calling for 1-2 inches more.  Same goes for most of Hunterdon County south of Flemington. Where less than 2 fell all day.  

It’s ripping snow in my area.

great storm.

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Just now, Animal said:

It’s ripping snow in my area.

great storm.

I don't mean for you.  I mean for areas where nothing fell.  Nothing is on the ground. Where is the justification for WSW when the actual forecast calls for an additional 1-2 inches on top of nothing?  How can that be substantiated? 

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1 minute ago, Snow88 said:

Euro  still has snow for several more hours with a few inches.

My understanding is that you shouldn't bother with models when the storm is underway; since you can see the evolution of the storm, at least according to Steve DiMartini ( I know, he can't hit the side of a barn with his forecasts, but he is a pro met ) right in front of you....I think this storm is done Anthony, but I'm not a met or fortune teller. Perhaps someone will get something else out of this tonight, but it won't be anywhere near me.

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23 minutes ago, Enigma said:

There no cold air to work with. We aren't going to suddenly get 1 in rates to draw colder air to surface. Very stale airmass.

It's not like the city has never seen good snowstorms when it's been 33-34 at the surface, however these rates are just not going to do it with these temps.

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11 minutes ago, Big Jims Videos said:

There's no reason Western NJ should still be in a winter storm warning when no accumulating snow fell from Trenton to Princeton and now they're only calling for 1-2 inches more.  Same goes for most of Hunterdon County south of Flemington. Where less than 2 fell all day.  

It's not doing anything in large portions of Eastern NJ either....stopped at1-3 hours ago. And the 3 is being really generous....

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It would be nice if those who hoping for more snow would refrain from chastising those who want to be realistic or perhaps even see more snow as unlikely. There is nothing wrong with wanting snow ... I think we all do to one degree or another and there is nothing wrong with having an opinion and stating it here with backup. But weather forecasting is not an exact science yet and there are always going to be those here with differing opinions because there is some subjectivity to all of this. I think it would be helpful to refrain from accusing those who don't see it as as snowy an event as being negative. In this case, it would appear that they turned out to be right. 

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It would be nice if those who hoping for more snow would refrain from chastising those who want to be realistic or perhaps even see more snow as unlikely. There is nothing wrong with wanting snow ... I think we all do to one degree or another and there is nothing wrong with having an opinion and stating it here with backup. But weather forecasting is not an exact science yet and there are always going to be those here with differing opinions because there is some subjectivity to all of this. I think it would be helpful to refrain from accusing those who don't see it as as snowy an event as being negative. In this case, it would appear that they turned out to be right. 
It would also be nice for those who think the event is over actually waits for it to be over.

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3 minutes ago, larrye said:

It would be nice if those who hoping for more snow would refrain from chastising those who want to be realistic or perhaps even see more snow as unlikely. There is nothing wrong with wanting snow ... I think we all do to one degree or another and there is nothing wrong with having an opinion and stating it here with backup. But weather forecasting is not an exact science yet and there are always going to be those here with differing opinions because there is some subjectivity to all of this. I think it would be helpful to refrain from accusing those who don't see it as as snowy an event as being negative. In this case, it would appear that they turned out to be right. 

I Love snow, so much so that I make my own, but we need to be realistic. This isn't what we wanted it to be. You can pretend we are going to get hammered in the next few hours but youll just be disappointed.

 

 

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