tacoman25 Posted December 26, 2025 Share Posted December 26, 2025 On 12/25/2025 at 1:50 PM, WolfStock1 said: Weather vs Climate. When looking at climate looking at single month, or even a single year, is meaningless - it's noise. You have to look at multi-year or even multi-decade averages to determine what's really going on. Of course. It's just interesting that despite the warming we've seen, over the short term there can still be some very cold periods regionally. This convo started, of course, with short term extreme warmth examples - which also happened to a slightly less warm degree 100 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 15 hours ago, tacoman25 said: Of course. It's just interesting that despite the warming we've seen, over the short term there can still be some very cold periods regionally. This convo started, of course, with short term extreme warmth examples - which also happened to a slightly less warm degree 100 years ago. Because it's not linear or evenly spread out plus it's weather vs climate. Look at the grand scope and you'll see warmth dominate over both a larger area and time frame. For example despite December being cold in the northeast US it absolutely torched for 2/3 of the country with record breaking all time December warmth in many spots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacoman25 Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 6 hours ago, SnoSki14 said: Because it's not linear or evenly spread out plus it's weather vs climate. Look at the grand scope and you'll see warmth dominate over both a larger area and time frame. For example despite December being cold in the northeast US it absolutely torched for 2/3 of the country with record breaking all time December warmth in many spots. Is that not weather? And when you include AK, not even close to 2/3 of the country torched. Alaska is pretty big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacoman25 Posted December 27, 2025 Share Posted December 27, 2025 If December ended today, it would be Juneau's coldest on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 30, 2025 Share Posted December 30, 2025 On 12/27/2025 at 2:09 PM, tacoman25 said: Is that not weather? And when you include AK, not even close to 2/3 of the country torched. Alaska is pretty big. The warm anomalies are so much more expansive and anomalous compared to the colder ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacoman25 Posted December 31, 2025 Share Posted December 31, 2025 On 12/29/2025 at 7:26 PM, SnoSki14 said: The warm anomalies are so much more expansive and anomalous compared to the colder ones. Not when you include AK and Canada, which you can't with that map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheClimateChanger Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago On 12/31/2025 at 2:49 PM, tacoman25 said: Not when you include AK and Canada, which you can't with that map. The post was referring to CONUS temperatures. While Alaska is part of the US, Canada is a separate country and has not, in fact, been annexed as of 1/2/2026. If we are going to include other countries, might as well tack on Mexico, which has been scorching. Or just do the entire Northern Hemisphere, which has been consistently running more than 1C above the 1981-2010 mean. http://www.karstenhaustein.com/reanalysis/gfs0p5/ANOM2m_mollw/ANOM2m_f144_mollw.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacoman25 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said: The post was referring to CONUS temperatures. While Alaska is part of the US, Canada is a separate country and has not, in fact, been annexed as of 1/2/2026. If we are going to include other countries, might as well tack on Mexico, which has been scorching. Or just do the entire Northern Hemisphere, which has been consistently running more than 1C above the 1981-2010 mean. http://www.karstenhaustein.com/reanalysis/gfs0p5/ANOM2m_mollw/ANOM2m_f144_mollw.png No, the original discussion that I have been a part of was also about Canada and AK. See the posts he was responding to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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