HoarfrostHubb Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, dendrite said: What’s the plan for CON? Is the data there or is it lost in the abyss forever? Don’t these have multiple redundancy built in? I could see it if they weren’t sending it to the inter webs, but surely it is saved at the site somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Just now, OceanStWx said: Techs are headed there today. I'm sure they're fired up about giving up a vacation day to come in and fix it, but our hope is that the data is there we just can't connect remotely. Now how does that work? They're sending altimeter data, but nothing else. Is the altimeter separate from the rest of the suite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, dendrite said: Now how does that work? They're sending altimeter data, but nothing else. Is the altimeter separate from the rest of the suite? Not my forte, but that may be transmitted via satellite or radio frequency vs. a hard line like the weather data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Don’t these have multiple redundancy built in? I could see it if they weren’t sending it to the inter webs, but surely it is saved at the site somehow As long as the sensors themselves didn't fail the data are there, but if the thermometer crapped the bed there is nothing we can do about it. It's not a manned airport all the time, so there is no back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 hour ago, HoarfrostHubb said: I’m happy to see snow still caked to trees. It survived the winds from Weds and Thurs morning and direct sun all day yesterday. Mid January out there Damn Dave that's sweet, 3 degrees here with no snow cover in the 3 rd week of Nov is possibly my all time anomalous temperature record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 At least -20F at SLK this morning. Nuts. There's a slight chance they were even colder between 8-12z when the data was out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 hour ago, dendrite said: At least -20F at SLK this morning. Nuts. There's a slight chance they were even colder between 8-12z when the data was out. So CON had both radios die that send data from the sensors to the ACU. The ACU is what stores data that we can recover. So when the radios kicked it, the ACU wasn't receiving data to store. So we'll never know what happened at CON... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Doh So what’s the solution? No data and no record or an estimate? I vaguely recall you saying before that there’s no more estimation of the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, dendrite said: Doh So what’s the solution? No data and no record or an estimate? I vaguely recall you saying before that there’s no more estimation of the data. Officially now and forever an "M" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Just now, OceanStWx said: Officially now and forever an "M" Ouch. Well, a bunch of other sites set records, but that stinks. It probably shattered it by 5+ degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 18 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Ouch. Well, a bunch of other sites set records, but that stinks. It probably shattered it by 5+ degrees Potential all-time record low Novie max erased. Definitely sucks. It's a shame they won't let you estimate. All of the river HADS sites around there were 16F or 17F. Enough for the daily record, but 2nd all-time for November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, dendrite said: Potential all-time record low Novie max erased. Definitely sucks. It's a shame they won't let you estimate. All of the river HADS sites around there were 16F or 17F. Enough for the daily record, but 2nd all-time for November. It's easier to get away with estimation with precip and even snow, because it's far more uniform across a city scale. But temps can vary pretty widely, so I've only ever seen manual back up used if the airport is manned 24/7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: It's easier to get away with estimation with precip and even snow, because it's far more uniform across a city scale. But temps can vary pretty widely, so I've only ever seen manual back up used if the airport is manned 24/7. It was a well mixed day which should at least make the estimation more reliable. What would the standard deviation be on a 17/6 day at CON for 11/22? The missing late min on 11/21, the entire day of 11/22, and the missing min this morning is going to have a large effect on the monthly mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: It's easier to get away with estimation with precip and even snow, because it's far more uniform across a city scale. But temps can vary pretty widely, so I've only ever seen manual back up used if the airport is manned 24/7. Not important but a shielded aspirated Davis2 as backup is a decent thing. Probably your offices petty cash would handle it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 minute ago, dendrite said: It was a well mixed day which should at least make the estimation more reliable. What would the standard deviation be on a 17/6 day at CON for 11/22? The missing late min on 11/21, the entire day of 11/22, and the missing min this morning is going to have a large effect on the monthly mean. The irony is probably that the cold snap and the malfunction are related. The radios were probably set to go, and the cold just helped them along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, dendrite said: It was a well mixed day which should at least make the estimation more reliable. What would the standard deviation be on a 17/6 day at CON for 11/22? The missing late min on 11/21, the entire day of 11/22, and the missing min this morning is going to have a large effect on the monthly mean. Don't worry NOAA will go with the higher number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Just now, Ginx snewx said: Not important but a shielded aspirated Davis2 as backup is a decent thing. Probably your offices petty cash would handle it Well for starters we'd need like 20 of them for backing up all of our equipment. Even if we just backed up our climate sites, that's like 2 grand. That's nearly our yearly travel budget, so no petty cash does not cover expenses. Also the continuous continuing resolutions suck for getting anything new. When Congress passes a budget on a continuing resolution, it is frozen at the last fully passed budget. Meaning there is no planning for the future. So it's not like we could even run it up the chain and request more money for Davis's, because it's just not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Don't worry NOAA will go with the higher number Talk to your local reps. If you don't want your climate records ruined have them pass us a real budget that we can use to plan preventative maintenance rather than just emergency maintenance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Don't worry NOAA will go with the higher number Maybe they are under a directive from the highest office to go with the lowest to fit his agenda...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 NOAA broke, cancel a couple of conferences and put back ups in GYX area. I will text Dr U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: NOAA broke, cancel a couple of conferences and put back ups in GYX area. I will text Dr U Don't let the wattsupwiththat guy see this thread. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I'm sorry for wasting your time on the OES threat, I went crazy yesterday at my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, USCAPEWEATHERAF said: I'm sorry for wasting your time on the OES threat, I went crazy yesterday at my house. Turkey thrown out window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, USCAPEWEATHERAF said: I'm sorry for wasting your time on the OES threat, I went crazy yesterday at my house. Stuffing and mashed potatoes thrown against dining room walls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Stuffing and mashed potatoes thrown against dining room walls? Blizz, did you get 2-3” from the squall the other day? Or was it 2-3” per hour stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 30 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Stuffing and mashed potatoes thrown against dining room walls? lol exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 58 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Blizz, did you get 2-3” from the squall the other day? Or was it 2-3” per hour stuff. No not . 2-3” . Probably wasn’t even an inch . It blew all over . Close though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Fookin cold sitting in those woods today, Went fro 9F to 22F this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 20 degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 The low of -10F this morning at MVL was a departure of -34 from the average minimum temperature on this date. Fun time of year to get an absurdly cold pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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