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March 15/16 Severe Wx


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Set of analogs includes the Leap Day outbreak of 2012

Interesting to see that only one of those analogs occurred during a warm ENSO.  In the end, this definitely has the potential for a decent event if moisture comes in at the higher end of guidance, but I don't have too much confidence in that happening at this point. I'm never a fan of the small margin for error with moisture in an early season event. 

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Interesting to see that only one of those analogs occurred during a warm ENSO. In the end, this definitely has the potential for a decent event if moisture comes in at the higher end of guidance, but I don't have too much confidence in that happening at this point. I'm never a fan of the small margin for error with moisture in an early season event.

Granted this is a good point. But, the Ohio valley is going to get a good rain in the next day or two. Should help moisture returns

A 96 outbreak was in a set of analogs and that had few points reaching 60+ to michigan. Was a significant outbreak. Models are trending towards bringing moisture further north.

We won't have any certainty until this low comes ashore

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Euro a bit better overall, though verbatim, the threat would be questionable in ne IL with winds off the lake.

 

Yeah warm sector really doesn't get north of I-88. Could still see some strong storms in the Chicago area though. 

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SPC doesn't sound too enthused, probably due to the lack of model agreement

 

 

...MIDWEST...
WHILE BOUNDARY-LAYER MOISTURE WILL LIKELY REMAIN MODEST WITH
PREVAILING WLYS AT 850 MB IN PRECEDING DAYS ACROSS THE NRN GULF...A
PLUME OF 50S SURFACE DEW POINTS SHOULD BECOME PREVALENT BENEATH
STEEP MID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES. AS ROBUST MID-LEVEL DCVA APPROACHES THE
IL PORTION OF THE WARM SECTOR...ONE OR MORE TSTM CLUSTERS SHOULD
DEVELOP BY LATE AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING...WITH ALL HAZARDS POSSIBLE.
CONVECTION SHOULD SPREAD EWD TUE NIGHT AS THE COLD FRONT
ACCELERATES. DESPITE THE OFFSET TO THE DIURNAL HEATING
CYCLE...STRENGTHENING DEEP-LAYER WINDS COULD SUPPORT A SMALL
PROGRESSIVE MCS CAPABLE OF EMBEDDED SUPERCELL STRUCTURES WITH
PRIMARILY A DAMAGING WIND RISK TUE NIGHT.
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SPC doesn't sound too enthused, probably due to the lack of model agreement

 

 

...MIDWEST...

WHILE BOUNDARY-LAYER MOISTURE WILL LIKELY REMAIN MODEST WITH

PREVAILING WLYS AT 850 MB IN PRECEDING DAYS ACROSS THE NRN GULF...A

PLUME OF 50S SURFACE DEW POINTS SHOULD BECOME PREVALENT BENEATH

STEEP MID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES. AS ROBUST MID-LEVEL DCVA APPROACHES THE

IL PORTION OF THE WARM SECTOR...ONE OR MORE TSTM CLUSTERS SHOULD

DEVELOP BY LATE AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING...WITH ALL HAZARDS POSSIBLE.

CONVECTION SHOULD SPREAD EWD TUE NIGHT AS THE COLD FRONT

ACCELERATES. DESPITE THE OFFSET TO THE DIURNAL HEATING

CYCLE...STRENGTHENING DEEP-LAYER WINDS COULD SUPPORT A SMALL

PROGRESSIVE MCS CAPABLE OF EMBEDDED SUPERCELL STRUCTURES WITH

PRIMARILY A DAMAGING WIND RISK TUE NIGHT.

 

At least they mentioned the all hazards part.  Also, new NAM seems to have ticked up in moisture a tad. 4k can see 18z. :weenie:

 

Here's the graphic and a sounding I pulled from NE Illinois at 21z. 

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IWX sounds much more enthused then the SPC

 

.LONG TERM...(SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY)
ISSUED AT 351 AM EST SUN MAR 13 2016

THE REMNANTS OF A LARGE UPPER LOW WERE BEING INGESTED INTO A SERIES
OF SHORT WAVE TROFS MOVING EAST ACROSS THE CONUS. THE PATTERN HAS
BECOME MORE DIFFUSE AND OVERALL THE MODELS HAVE BEEN WAY OVERDOING
RAINFALL AMOUNTS WITH THIS SCENARIO THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS. RAIN IS
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE INTO MONDAY...HOWEVER...HEAVY RAINFALL IS NOT
EXPECTED. ANOTHER UPPER LEVEL TROF AND STRONG UPPER LEVEL ENERGY
WILL REACH THE AREA LATE TUESDAY. SEVERAL FACTORS WILL BECOME
FAVORABLE FOR SEVERE STORMS LATE TUESDAY AND EARLY TUESDAY NIGHT. A
STRONG COLD FRONT ALONG WITH AN ELEVATED MIXED LAYER WITH STEEP MID
LEVEL LAPSE RATE ALONG WITH STRONG UPPER LEVEL WINDS AND JET
DYNAMICS ALL APPEAR FAVORABLE FOR SEVERE STORMS. BUFKIT PROFILES
FAVOR SUPERCELLS GIVEN LARGE LOW LEVEL SHEAR...ALTHOUGH MOISTURE
AVAILABLE WILL NOT BE OPTIMUM FOR STORMS BUT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT.
WILL ADD MENTION OF THE POSSIBILITY FOR SEVERE STORMS IN THE
HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK. 

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I find it interesting that dew points currently this Sunday afternoon are in the low 60's south of Indianapolis.  If this holds serve come Tuesday it will only enhance the storms.

They are supposed to drop off some tomorrow, but there isn't a big push from a cold front blasting into the area. So I would expect them to not go down too much.

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The 4km NAM is closer to it than the 12km NAM.

 

 

Yeah, the 4km run is sort of a compromise on timing but closer to the GFS.  Maybe it's just me but I get suspicious of the GFS when it's the fastest model, though I guess there are some situations where it would make sense more than others.

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Verbatim the 12z NAM (12 km) is a pretty serious tornado threat across N IL including RFD and the entirety of Chicagoland during peak heating Tuesday afternoon. Not doing it with completely unrealistic moisture content either (dewpoints generally in the upper 50s). Shows you what an EML can do and generally why they cause problems when they invade E of the Plains.

 

We'll see what happens with timing, given this is still outside the mesoscale guidance's preferred range, but I'd bet it does slow to some degree.

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Pretty ridiculous model spread on timing for being within 60 hours.

Yeah the Euro is slow enough to substantially reduce the threat here vs the 12km NAM which is beyond impressive. As you mentioned earlier, Euro hasn't had good run to run continuity with this setup. It's getting into a range where you'd want to put more trust in its solution, but hard to tell in this case given poor run to run continuity. At the same time, it's also still far enough out to have some doubt in the NAM output.
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