MJO812 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Smells like rain outside. Really gloomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I think many of us here will appreciate that the difference between here and Atlantic city will be more like 1" instead of 2.5" and not 10" of snow instead of 25" But, those times are coming up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC Weather Lover Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 WAIT a minute....why is Accuweather calling this a nor'easter? http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/rain-to-graze-the-eastern-seab/34504678 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 18z GFS is significantly wetter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 WAIT a minute....why is Accuweather calling this a nor'easter? http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/rain-to-graze-the-eastern-seab/34504678 The storm will affect parts of the northeast and winds will be from the NE with low pressure riding up the coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 Everyone within 50 miles of NYC on the 18z GFS is 1" plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 WAIT a minute....why is Accuweather calling this a nor'easter? http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/rain-to-graze-the-eastern-seab/34504678 Why does any media agency use terms like "polar vortex" in their headlines? People will click... even if for the wrong reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC Weather Lover Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 The storm will affect parts of the northeast and winds will be from the NE with low pressure riding up the coast so is this the first official bonafide nor'easter of the year (or of the season)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Why does any media agency use terms like "polar vortex" in their headlines? People will click... even if for the wrong reasons. I agree and laughed when people wanted to call this a noreaster...But by definition it might be one. It's a low bringing us persistent NE winds and precip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 so is this the first official nor'easter of the year?I say no. You don't have a deepening low pressure at all. We're talking 1018mb at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 I agree and laughed when people wanted to call this a noreaster...But by definition it might be one. It's a low bringing us persistent NE winds and precip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 Nothing quite like tracking the first big storm of the season. For us weather weenies this is what it's all about. Soon we'll be tracking the first flakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Nothing quite like tracking the first big storm remotely identifiable synoptic system of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell03 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 This is what I call perfect beach weather. COASTAL HAZARD MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ 255 PM EDT WED SEP 24 2014 ...HIGH RIP CURRENT RISK REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL MIDNIGHT EDTTONIGHT......HIGH SURF ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING TO NOONEDT THURSDAY......COASTAL FLOOD ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 8 PM THIS EVENING TO2 AM EDT THURSDAY.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyLovesSnow Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 WAIT a minute....why is Accuweather calling this a nor'easter? http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/rain-to-graze-the-eastern-seab/34504678 This is what the article says "Nor'easter to Soak DC to NYC, Lash East Coast With Wind and FloodingA storm system moving NORTHWARD (notice not northeast ward) along the Atlantic coast during the middle of the week will bring not only a soaking rain to the region, but also gusty winds and the risk of urban and coastal flooding. So IMO it's not a nor'easter as this doesn't travel northeast, it's traveling north. Regardless like yanks said this is a weak low and has some tropical juncture in it. Also it's not cold usually nor'easters are much colder, doesn't have to be snow of course. At least we are tracking something cause it's been awfully dry and boring. Can't wait for real tracking (SNOW) c u guys later P.S. I can't stand accuweather and weather channel. I mean they actually pretend they have passion for weather, they really don't... People like us do. Also what's up with the weather channel, play weather not these dumb shows I can't stand. Sorry guys but I wish we had our weather channel, we'd be much better than them that's for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell03 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Site won't let me post an image of the buoy wave heights? They are up to 10 feet southeast of Cape May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WintersGrasp Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Yeah, regardless of whether it fits into the category of "nor'easter", it clearly is to get our attention. Many more people will read into it if it says "nor'easter making its way to NYC" than if it said "about an inch of rain tomorrow for NYC".....just like "the polar vortex is spinning its way down from the frigid north" sounds more exciting than "temperatures will be a tad bit below normal tomorrow". Nothing new with the headlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell03 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 This is what the article says "Nor'easter to Soak DC to NYC, Lash East Coast With Wind and Flooding A storm system moving NORTHWARD (notice not northeast ward) along the Atlantic coast during the middle of the week will bring not only a soaking rain to the region, but also gusty winds and the risk of urban and coastal flooding. So IMO it's not a nor'easter as this doesn't travel northeast, it's traveling north. Regardless like yanks said this is a weak low and has some tropical juncture in it. Also it's not cold usually nor'easters are much colder, doesn't have to be snow of course. At least we are tracking something cause it's been awfully dry and boring. Can't wait for real tracking (SNOW) c u guys later P.S. I can't stand accuweather and weather channel. I mean they actually pretend they have passion for weather, they really don't... People like us do. Also what's up with the weather channel, play weather not these dumb shows I can't stand. Sorry guys but I wish we had our weather channel, we'd be much better than them that's for sure! Those aren't really criteria. A nor'easter in December 1994 produced unseasonably warm temperatures across the region and was noted for having subtropical characteristics. What I am to understand is that the system needs to produce sustained gale force winds out of the northeast on land for a certain period of time (I think six hours?) and the storm must have a surface low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 This is what the article says "Nor'easter to Soak DC to NYC, Lash East Coast With Wind and Flooding A storm system moving NORTHWARD (notice not northeast ward) along the Atlantic coast during the middle of the week will bring not only a soaking rain to the region, but also gusty winds and the risk of urban and coastal flooding. So IMO it's not a nor'easter as this doesn't travel northeast, it's traveling north. Regardless like yanks said this is a weak low and has some tropical juncture in it. Also it's not cold usually nor'easters are much colder, doesn't have to be snow of course. At least we are tracking something cause it's been awfully dry and boring. Can't wait for real tracking (SNOW) c u guys later P.S. I can't stand accuweather and weather channel. I mean they actually pretend they have passion for weather, they really don't... People like us do. Also what's up with the weather channel, play weather not these dumb shows I can't stand. Sorry guys but I wish we had our weather channel, we'd be much better than them that's for sure! Err... "nor'easter" is derived from the most prominent *wind direction* in such a storm, not its forward movement. Nor'easters also don't have to be cold. Those aren't really criteria. A nor'easter in December 1994 produced unseasonably warm temperatures across the region and was noted for having subtropical characteristics. What I am to understand is that the system needs to produce sustained gale force winds out of the northeast on land for a certain period of time (I think six hours?) and the storm must have a surface low. Intensity and duration of winds are irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 10 ft waves off Cape May,NJ: http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 where do folks come up with this stuff? When I was young, an SPC met told me that "severe weather" is like porn—there are no rules, but you'll know it when you see it, every time. Nor'easter is the same thing. But I digress... can't wait for my .17" of rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell03 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Err... "nor'easter" is derived from the most prominent *wind direction* in such a storm, not its forward movement. Nor'easters also don't have to be cold. Intensity and duration of winds are irrelevant. So then all we need is winds out of the northeast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Don't know what a Nor'easter is? Here: http://www.noaa.gov/features/03_protecting/noreasters.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell03 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Well the more you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 This certainly looks sounds and feels like nor'easter. It's not a tropical system and there will be NE winds. For me this is officially the first nor'easter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 where do folks come up with this stuff? When I was young, an SPC met told me that "severe weather" is like porn—there are no rules, but you'll know it when you see it, every time. Nor'easter is the same thing. But I digress... can't wait for my .17" of rain. If I break a .25 total I'll be happy...I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 SREF is a tick wetter again. The latest HRRR is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IsentropicLift Posted September 25, 2014 Author Share Posted September 25, 2014 The 00z HRRR just made a pretty big jump NW. Much better run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Really sharp cutoff on the Nam..2"+ over south Jersey to less than 1" north and east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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