Jump to content
  • Member Statistics

    17,507
    Total Members
    7,904
    Most Online
    SnowHabit
    Newest Member
    SnowHabit
    Joined

Recommended Posts

Potential looks much less on the 12z runs, both the GFS and Euro.  As suspected, the SE ridge NEVER loses...and I mean never, when a system rides up it.  Looks like after the skies open up for 5-7 days of rain, back to a temporary +PNA pattern and then a very real glimpse of spring.  JB says that spring-like look is "fake spring" to paraphrase.  I think we get two more shots of cold.  One after the upcoming warm-up which does not look promising for snow.  Then one more mid-late month.  It does look like spring comes right on time and will be warmer than normal based on CPC.  The NAO basically stays positive throughout the GFS run.  If one thing has really hurt us this winter, it is a +NAO.  Just a great lesson on how it can snow w/out it, but really to have multiple chances it must be negative for a longer period of time than it has been this winter.  Winter is not over by a long shot, but we are 2/3 of the way there in terms of climo for most outside of the mountains or the odd, freak spring blizzard. 

 

edit:  As tnweathernut stated earlier in this thread, we need split flow which has been scarce.  Mr. Bob and Jeff, how do you think February plays out?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 447
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Potential looks much less on the 12z runs, both the GFS and Euro. 

 

I wouldn't go that far.  Nice and BIG highs sliding in from the northwest to southeast, and an active southern (or split) stream with TWO different impulses coming in at a latitude of southern CA or further.  The first one may set the table for the second.  It's happened that way before.  I am no where near giving up on this period.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If it is an Apps runner, IMO it's a Lakes cutter. Memphis might have a shot. We would need the first system to drive a good cold shot right to the spine of the Apps...w/ no blocking this thing could go way west. With cold air in place the next system would ride the boundary between cold and warm air. If that first system doesn't drive down cold air, more than likely the slp tracks through central TN. -PNA isn't going to allow much else...unless, as you all stated earlier, that first system (w/ enough space between the two) can set the table for the pattern to follow. Really, what we need is a slider (second system) versus a system ejecting from Texas. Need that slp to slide below the TN Valley w/ cold air trapped on top much like the Euro earlier today. Time will tell. Tough to get snow anywhere in the TN Valley w/ that type of pattern(the Texas to Louisville, KY).

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The 12z Euro ensembles seem to back up the op run pretty well. The farther west you go the wilder the members are.

Here are some mean snowfall numbers through hour 240:

Memphis 3.4

Jackson 4.0

Nashville 3.8

Chattanooga 1.2

Knoxville 2.0

Bristol 2.8

Virtually every member shows measurable snow in the first 3 cities. A good number of 1 foot+ ones in there too.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The 12z Euro ensembles seem to back up the op run pretty well. The farther west you go the wilder the members are.

Here are some mean snowfall numbers through hour 240:

Memphis 3.4

Jackson 4.0

Nashville 3.8

Chattanooga 1.2

Knoxville 2.0

Bristol 2.8

Virtually every member shows measurable snow in the first 3 cities. A good number of 1 foot+ ones in there too.

Will be interested in the overnight run of the Euro; the 18Z GFS plays it down a lot basically cold rain for my area - north of Nashville - which is likely to take place anyway if previous systems are any indication, one can hope though!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The 12z Euro ensembles seem to back up the op run pretty well. The farther west you go the wilder the members are.

Here are some mean snowfall numbers through hour 240:

Memphis 3.4

Jackson 4.0

Nashville 3.8

Chattanooga 1.2

Knoxville 2.0

Bristol 2.8

Virtually every member shows measurable snow in the first 3 cities. A good number of 1 foot+ ones in there too.

Stove,

Do the majority of individuals cut the chance with the first system and give those numbers via system number two......? Just curious if there is a big spread for system number one.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well the Euro keeps insisting Tennessee will get a widespread 8-18 inch snow amounts in 8-10 days. I am curious about the 850s in relation to the precip timing. Can someone with access post the data for hours 204-240 for the major TV cities from Memphis to Huntsville, Nashville, Crossville, Knox, and Tri. 

 

As of 216 they'd be borderline for East Tennessee south of the border counties stretching back to South of Nash. How fast to they crash and how much precip falls between 216 and 240?

 

I see the posted sn maps but they often seem to include all frozen precip outcomes. 

 

The GFS is further South and East and just buries the Carolina's, giving East Tennessee 4-8 and leaving middle and western Valley areas out. But both models have a big southern stream storm in this time period.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I've only glanced at the 0z Euro ensembles, will tally up the numbers later, but the general theme I'm seeing is this.  Memphis, Nashville, and even TRI look bullish.  Knoxville and Chattanooga have significantly fewer members showing the hit.  This is in regards to the big storm towards the end of the period.  This basically goes along with the op run and also backs up the 850 temps concern that John mentioned.  There is a period where above freezing 850s push up into the state from the south before retreating back.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Right now the players are talking about having a game. It'll be a while before we can confirm they are, even longer until they take the field. The GGEM is also showing a storm in this tiimeframe, but it's a big GLC.

6z GFS vs 0z EURO compromise would look nice. Don't we all wish it was that easy?

I think the leader/follower idea is alive and well, but a LONG time to go to get there and a LOT can go wrong.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Lots of snow chances through next week on the Euro.Also the Euro is showing a possible ice storm for Nashville


ECMWF Deterministic FORECAST FOR: BNA    LAT=  36.12 LON=  -86.68 ELE=   591                                            00Z JAN30                 2 M     850     SFC     SFC     700    6 HR     500    1000                  TMP     TMP     PRS     RHU     RHU     QPF     HGT     500                  (C)     (C)    (MB)    (PCT)   (PCT)   (IN)    (DM)     THK THU 00Z 30-JAN  -5.9   -11.3    1030      37       6    0.00     548     525    THU 06Z 30-JAN -10.5    -8.5    1029      45       6    0.00     552     530    THU 12Z 30-JAN -11.1    -4.7    1027      43       3    0.00     556     536    THU 18Z 30-JAN   1.7     0.3    1023      20      13    0.00     562     543    FRI 00Z 31-JAN  -0.9     3.1    1020      30      14    0.00     565     549    FRI 06Z 31-JAN  -2.5     0.8    1022      42      29    0.00     566     549    FRI 12Z 31-JAN  -2.9     0.3    1022      51      41    0.00     569     552    FRI 18Z 31-JAN   7.6     2.6    1021      40      33    0.00     572     555    SAT 00Z 01-FEB   2.7     4.9    1018      64      34    0.00     572     557    SAT 06Z 01-FEB   0.9     6.0    1019      56      34    0.00     573     558    SAT 12Z 01-FEB   1.5     7.8    1019      76      30    0.00     572     557    SAT 18Z 01-FEB  11.2     6.8    1017      69      22    0.00     573     558    SUN 00Z 02-FEB   8.7     7.1    1015      92      12    0.00     572     560    SUN 06Z 02-FEB   9.7     9.5    1014      98      48    0.00     571     559    SUN 12Z 02-FEB   5.9     7.0    1017      99      97    0.12     568     555    SUN 18Z 02-FEB   1.3     5.8    1022      97      69    0.28     567     550    MON 00Z 03-FEB   0.0     2.8    1023      90      98    0.17     566     547    MON 06Z 03-FEB  -0.8     1.3    1023      91      99    0.24     564     546    MON 12Z 03-FEB  -2.2     0.9    1025      81      76    0.05     564     544    MON 18Z 03-FEB   4.4     0.7    1026      55       6    0.00     568     548    TUE 00Z 04-FEB  -1.1     2.2    1025      70       6    0.00     570     550    TUE 06Z 04-FEB  -2.4     4.5    1024      64      10    0.00     571     551    TUE 12Z 04-FEB  -1.6     5.7    1021      75      15    0.00     570     553    TUE 18Z 04-FEB   5.3     9.9    1014      97      97    0.29     568     557    WED 00Z 05-FEB  12.3    10.7    1006      98      87    0.32     566     561    WED 06Z 05-FEB   6.3     7.0    1009      98      65    0.84     562     555    WED 12Z 05-FEB  -1.7    -2.3    1018      90      27    0.04     553     539    WED 18Z 05-FEB  -0.4    -9.5    1026      62      33    0.01     554     534    THU 00Z 06-FEB  -1.3    -9.2    1030      61      24    0.00     558     535    
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Maybe I should be much more excited.........?

@WxSouth: February looking to go go down in History books for weather across nation. Blend late '70s and early '80s. Incredible 5H anomalies coming.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

Robert is on a bit of a hot streak right now....I sure as heck hope he is right.  From my amatuer eyes, I agree with his sentiment. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes he is.

I really think 500 looks pretty good going forward after next Wednesday, and hearing the euro ensembles at 0z were further south, and seeing pretty good agreement for a gulf system with quite a bit of cold air around makes me optimistic to begin with. I think we are headed toward a pretty good period .....to at least track, but we have to get inside 120/144 before I can let myself go all in.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...