ORH_wxman Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I seem to remember about 15" or so. I remember the snow Depth that year getting pretty deep, I remember inspecting houses and the snow was up to my waist in some yards, I don't remember if it was that deep right after this storm or later in the season because we did get more storms. The snow depth peaked in the interior on January 12-13 which dropped about 8-12" of snow....about 6 days later, the parade of cutters started. The snow pack never rebounded to pre-cutter depths despite winter returning in February/March (with a 4-5 day thaw latter Feb) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Living in Washington DC at the time. Freaking amazing storm Living right over the river in Arlington. Storm happened over a Saturday night and I remember walking over the Key Bridge into Georgetown on Sunday with people cross country skiing over it. If I can, I will try and find some photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 From Adams St. in Arlington area, Key Bridge and Georgetown area (M St./Wisconsin Ave). Yeah, not New England photos, but that's where I was living at the time. Plus I'd rather not venture into the MA forum to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Jan 1996 was the snow depth record for BOS (broke 1978) and still is since 2011 I believe never got measured officially as depth is no longer kept. What do you mean by this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Great pictures! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Great pictures! Thanks. When the topic of floods and ice dams ever come up I will try and dig out some shots I took of various events on the Potomac. More than once the Georgetown University crew boathouse was flooded to the second floor. Plus the collisions of ice were just awesome to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalloweenGale Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 That storm actually had a nasty dryslot with sun visible over SE MA despite them jacking. Big OES contribution too. I remember the sun coming out fully, or just barely seeing the disc on Tuesday I believe. Same goes for the 10th Clipper. I remember how innocently it started. Sunday afternoon looked picturesque with the light flurries, then after dark it ramped up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I think we ended up with between 18-24" out here on the Cape, I remember being 6 years old and having snow depths in amazingly high right next to me, I couldn't have been more than 4'5". Just an amazing storm. I actually might have been too young to remember anything more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Chatham did mix in that storm I believe, but it was snow from HYA ares west iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Nice pics Garth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Jan 1996 was the snow depth record for BOS (broke 1978) and still is since 2011 I believe never got measured officially as depth is no longer kept. What do you mean by this? Back before the FAA contract observers took over, snow depth observations were taken every day at 12Z. Since the early 90s, though, only a few sites do this. We worked out agreements with the WCOs at BDL and PVD to do this for us, as they are on site. The volunteers that measure snow for ORH and BOS not able to do this, since they are not right on site (within 2 miles and 100 feet of the site). --Turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 growing up in C NJ, this was the the storm we waited for and what all others are compared to. total: 28"-32" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnowman Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Back before the FAA contract observers took over, snow depth observations were taken every day at 12Z. Since the early 90s, though, only a few sites do this. We worked out agreements with the WCOs at BDL and PVD to do this for us, as they are on site. The volunteers that measure snow for ORH and BOS not able to do this, since they are not right on site (within 2 miles and 100 feet of the site). --Turtle With ALL the mistakes at airports recently (especially at Baltimore, Hartford and Especially Providence which is always SO damned low) how does one get to do that, cause it seems like pulling teeth for getting people to do it, But someone like me would PAY to do it! How does it work? - Cory "The Snowman" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalloweenGale Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 After impacting the northeast and Atlantic Canada, did the storm impact Europe? I've always wanted to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 With ALL the mistakes at airports recently (especially at Baltimore, Hartford and Especially Providence which is always SO damned low) how does one get to do that, cause it seems like pulling teeth for getting people to do it, But someone like me would PAY to do it! How does it work? - Cory "The Snowman" Hi Cory! What is low at PVD? Temp...DP?? Not sure. That is all done by our dear 'friend,' ASOS. The electronics techs have criteria to go out to QC T/Td. The forecasters and HMTs do QC those as well. When we see a certain location too high or low as compared to neighboring sites, but only a few degrees either way, we do inquire with the el techs. However, when we see an obvious discrepancy, we can act upon it ourselves. This happened at PYM last week during the arctic airmass. The mid shift noticed the T was much too warm, and called it in to the 24 hour site. The sensor was shut off until the el techs could get out to fix it. Unfortunately, even though we are "back in business," so to speak, there are still big budget constraints so have to watch when the el techs travel to fix ASOSs. If they have to, they will, but for obvious problems. When it comes to doing the snow on ground reports at 12Z, the observers do have to be on site AFAIK. I'm sure you can understand this, as snow on the ground can be vastly different even a few miles apart depending upon temps, melt rates and so forth. I realize this is frustrating. Wish I could offer more. BTW, when PVD first converted from NWS to contractors in 1994 (as I recall), my hub was a part of the first team. There was a BIG outrage when NO snow measurements were taken during that first winter. When the second winter came around, NWS agreed to pay the contractors $1 per snow OB that winter. Yes, the 1995-96 winter! The hub got a BIG paycheck that winter!!! Needless to say, that doesn't happen now the way budgets are. --Turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subdude Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 wife and I were vacationing in St John when I was watching all the news reports of the epic storm. Needless to say,we were supposed to head home on the 14th our flight out of St Thomas to San Juan was fine. Once we got to San Juan all bets were off. We were stranded so we took a taxi 15miles from the airport to get a hotel room at triple the cost. Next day we lucked out and grabbed a flight to JFK we got bumped to first class because we were on standby. From JFK, our friend who lived in the city was kind enough to drive us home 4.5hr drive. Got home to 5' snow banks at the end of the driveway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neweathereye Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I was a skywarn spotter in Jaffrey New Hampshire at the time and we had more then a foot of snow there..great storm...for the 1995-96 season we ended up with 168" of snow and was verified by the National Weather Service of Taunton. We had two back to back storms of 30" during that season. Biggest winter of all for me,other then the Bliz of 78 where i lived in Maine at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I was a skywarn spotter in Jaffrey New Hampshire at the time and we had more then a foot of snow there..great storm...for the 1995-96 season we ended up with 168" of snow and was verified by the National Weather Service of Taunton. We had two back to back storms of 30" during that season. Biggest winter of all for me,other then the Bliz of 78 where i lived in Maine at the time. what were the back to back storms up there in 95-96? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 what were the back to back storms up there in 95-96? I remember two 30" storms in Jaffrey in 2001...2/5/01 and 3/4-6/01 gave them 30". I do not recall any storm giving them that much in 1996. The coop site had their largest storm that winter on 4/10 with 21 inches. They also had 18.5" in the storm this thread is talking about 1/7-8/96. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnowman Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Hi Cory! What is low at PVD? Temp...DP?? Not sure. That is all done by our dear 'friend,' ASOS. The electronics techs have criteria to go out to QC T/Td. The forecasters and HMTs do QC those as well. When we see a certain location too high or low as compared to neighboring sites, but only a few degrees either way, we do inquire with the el techs. However, when we see an obvious discrepancy, we can act upon it ourselves. This happened at PYM last week during the arctic airmass. The mid shift noticed the T was much too warm, and called it in to the 24 hour site. The sensor was shut off until the el techs could get out to fix it. Unfortunately, even though we are "back in business," so to speak, there are still big budget constraints so have to watch when the el techs travel to fix ASOSs. If they have to, they will, but for obvious problems. When it comes to doing the snow on ground reports at 12Z, the observers do have to be on site AFAIK. I'm sure you can understand this, as snow on the ground can be vastly different even a few miles apart depending upon temps, melt rates and so forth. I realize this is frustrating. Wish I could offer more. BTW, when PVD first converted from NWS to contractors in 1994 (as I recall), my hub was a part of the first team. There was a BIG outrage when NO snow measurements were taken during that first winter. When the second winter came around, NWS agreed to pay the contractors $1 per snow OB that winter. Yes, the 1995-96 winter! The hub got a BIG paycheck that winter!!! Needless to say, that doesn't happen now the way budgets are. --Turtle Ya my complaint was the PVD Snow amounts in storms are always too low. Someone doesn't give a rats behind about the totals. And I'd pay $1 Easily to be the official guy to go down there and measure. I routinely get 2X to 3X the amount of snow at PVD and people have 30% more than there all the time in the neighboring towns. It's beyond frustrating at every storm. I rarely Ever have a complaint at Boston or Worcester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 From Adams St. in Arlington area, Key Bridge and Georgetown area (M St./Wisconsin Ave). Yeah, not New England photos, but that's where I was living at the time. Plus I'd rather not venture into the MA forum to post. Oh wow-- those are spectacular pics for anywhere inside DC proper. Please do post them in the MA forum-- I'll start a thread about comparing the Blizzard of '96 to 2/5-6/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Ya my complaint was the PVD Snow amounts in storms are always too low. Someone doesn't give a rats behind about the totals. And I'd pay $1 Easily to be the official guy to go down there and measure. I routinely get 2X to 3X the amount of snow at PVD and people have 30% more than there all the time in the neighboring towns. It's beyond frustrating at every storm. I rarely Ever have a complaint at Boston or Worcester. Huh? They are really low lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 BOS and PVD are both in probably the least snowiest parts of town...they are going to be lower than the rest of the city. ORH airport (or when I've helped out with measurements on winter hill) are all over 900 feet. BDL is north of Hartford. BOS can be tough when they are using Winthrop coop...because there is no guarantee you get the measurements before it settles. It always depends on when the observer measures...and if they are doing 6 hour or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 BOS and PVD are both in probably the least snowiest parts of town...they are going to be lower than the rest of the city. ORH airport (or when I've helped out with measurements on winter hill) are all over 900 feet. BDL is north of Hartford. BOS can be tough when they are using Winthrop coop...because there is no guarantee you get the measurements before it settles. It always depends on when the observer measures...and if they are doing 6 hour or not. Or how they measure. He has to be careful with windy events...those totals stick out like a sore thumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnowman Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Huh? They are really low lately. Well overall over the many years. On the whole ALL these darned airport reports are low. Outside of the Central Park reading in the Blizzard of 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 BOS and PVD are both in probably the least snowiest parts of town...they are going to be lower than the rest of the city. ORH airport (or when I've helped out with measurements on winter hill) are all over 900 feet. BDL is north of Hartford. BOS can be tough when they are using Winthrop coop...because there is no guarantee you get the measurements before it settles. It always depends on when the observer measures...and if they are doing 6 hour or not. Or how they measure. He has to be careful with windy events...those totals stick out like a sore thumb. It's tough at BOS being right on the Harbor there. The Winthrop report is only about 2 miles as the crow flies from Logan, and the same elevation (not much!). BOS will almost always have lower amounts than other parts of the city. Winthrop has been reporting to us for years now, and we have also spoken with him. He's very careful about his measurements, and does as good a job as he can. You are also correct about PVD, Will. They are not far away from the Bay, and they are in Warwick, NOT downtown Providence. This is about 8 miles S of the city, so not representative there. We do have an occasional observer that calls us from Federal Hill, and does a pretty good job. One of our forecasters also lives near Federal Hill, as well as another on the East Side. --Turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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