MAG5035 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Euro operational has come noticeably east tonight for the post X-mas storm. Still runs up west of us but now runs the low up the left side of the Apps thru the middle of Ohio and into Ontario. Does seem to try have a bit of a secondary, but the primary stays dominant and secondary pretty far in. Makes for a scenario similar to what we have coming up Thurs night. Speaking of which, might have to consider that a good part of C-pa could have a more meaningful changeover after the sharp frontal passage (ie a couple inches of wet snow). Pretty much everything tries to hold some QPF back in the cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 What section of Johnstown u gonna be at? Brownstown. Heading toward Westmont. Why the heck does the NWS always wait till the last minute to pull the trigger for Cambria county? lol. They only think 4" there and they have 11" for Somerset.. ya ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 First call. Post front snow + Lake Effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 EURO ENS aren't bad. Slowly getting to what we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 GFS east again! Snow to heavy ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Who the hell made this map, seriously? Not just going to get 15" in Somerset county and then drop to 4-5" in Cambria.. come on.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irvingtwosmokes Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 eastern, it's amazing how they always have wide discrepancies between Somerset & Johnstown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 eastern, it's amazing how they always have wide discrepancies between Somerset & Johnstown Ya idk what they are doing. Johnstown will get like at least 8". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irvingtwosmokes Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Also, sounds like, blowing & drifting is going to be a b**ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Also, sounds like, blowing & drifting is going to be a b**ch. What part of JST you in? I'll be making my way to Brownstown tomorrow afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I am about as optimistic as I have been all year but still quite cautious. Don't know about that discrepancy on the snowfall prediction either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 its snowing here Flurries here early this am. Euro operational has come noticeably east tonight for the post X-mas storm. Still runs up west of us but now runs the low up the left side of the Apps thru the middle of Ohio and into Ontario. Does seem to try have a bit of a secondary, but the primary stays dominant and secondary pretty far in. Makes for a scenario similar to what we have coming up Thurs night. Speaking of which, might have to consider that a good part of C-pa could have a more meaningful changeover after the sharp frontal passage (ie a couple inches of wet snow). Pretty much everything tries to hold some QPF back in the cold. That weak thing around Xmas...does that have any bearing on what we get later? As in, if it is stronger and west, would it be affect the post-Xmas storm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irvingtwosmokes Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 What part of JST you in? I'll be making my way to Brownstown tomorrow afternoon. I'm in Moxham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I'm in Moxham Ah on the other side of town. I am forecasting 9-12" for JST attm, we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Take photos of snow on the ground, boys. I don't believe it's allowed in CPA anymore so I need to see proof! Good luck with you guys, I'll enjoy our cool nights trapped by some clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternUSWX Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Take photos of snow on the ground, boys. I don't believe it's allowed in CPA anymore so I need to see proof! Good luck with you guys, I'll enjoy our cool nights trapped by some clouds. Will have plenty of pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 So, about this event due up in a couple days: I'm traveling via bus Friday morning from U-Park back to Wilkes-Barre. Should I be worried about weather altering the trip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 So, about this event due up in a couple days: I'm traveling via bus Friday morning from U-Park back to Wilkes-Barre. Should I be worried about weather altering the trip? Probably not too bad. I'd be more worried if you were heading to Pittsburgh. No idea what happens with the changeover Thur night, though. Models keep showing like 1-2 or so from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Have you noticed how this year and last have featured a tropical cyclone making landfall in the MA/NE, then we get back to back mild and relatively snowless winters? I wonder if the is a correlation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomixwx Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Sooo... have you just conceded that this winter is done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Have you noticed how this year and last have featured a tropical cyclone making landfall in the MA/NE, then we get back to back mild and relatively snowless winters? I wonder if the is a correlation. Hard to say....85-86 was an okay winter after Gloria, but then there's Bob in 1991. Do you count Isabel as a Mid-Atlantic hit? That was 2003 and that winter rocked it up here. Not sure what 60-61 was like after Donna, but didn't the 1954-55 winter suck after Carol and Edna? Of course, we do have a ways to go for this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Euro and the other models have up to an inch or so for all of us Xmas Eve night. Of course they could just be feeling sorry for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Its early in the season, i'm not ready to throw in the towel. I'm pretty confident we have more snow this season then last season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Ahah eastern's gonna love this, winter storm watches issued in NWS Pit's CWA for their northern tier counties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Hard to say....85-86 was an okay winter after Gloria, but then there's Bob in 1991. Do you count Isabel as a Mid-Atlantic hit? That was 2003 and that winter rocked it up here. Not sure what 60-61 was like after Donna, but didn't the 1954-55 winter suck after Carol and Edna? Of course, we do have a ways to go for this one... True. I didn't consider a more expanded historical perspective. Sooo... have you just conceded that this winter is done? Yes, I wrote this winter off at the start of the month. The cherry trees are starting to blossom at my work already. Ahah eastern's gonna love this, winter storm watches issued in NWS Pit's CWA for their northern tier counties. I wonder why it's not a Lake Effect Snow Watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 On the other hand holy cow, look at the new snow map. Must be factoring changeover with system itself. They've lowered start time to 12am Fri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I wonder why it's not a Lake Effect Snow Watch. That's a good question. Could be an impact thing since it's pretty likely that it's probably going to be more of a lake enhanced snow shield for awhile on the backside of this system and thus you have more of a widespread possible verification of warning amounts vs being in the right place for a band to set up. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 That's a good question. Could be an impact thing since it's pretty likely that it's probably going to be more of a lake enhanced snow shield for awhile on the backside of this system and thus you have more of a widespread possible verification of warning amounts vs being in the right place for a band to set up. Interesting. Could we really get 3-4 out of this? Not sure about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 the new HPC maps are looking much better DAY 2 DAY 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 CTP discussion is an interesting read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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