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Early May (1st-7th) Severe Chances


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La Crosse doesn't seem hyped on anything in my backyard:

FOR THE AFTERNOON...CONVECTION NEAR THE OUTFLOW SHOULD CONTINUE TO

DIMINISH AS THE CAPPING MOVES NORTHEAST...AND THE OVERALL LOW

LEVEL JET DIMINISHES WITH THE TYPICAL DIURNAL WEAKENING. WAS

INITIALLY CONCERNED THAT SURFACE BASED CONVECTION WOULD FIRE ON

THE OUTFLOW BOUNDARY IN NORTHERN MISSOURI. IF THIS OCCURRED...WE

COULD GET COMPLETELY SHUT OUT OF ANY CONVECTION IN THE FORECAST

AREA FOR THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING. HOWEVER...THERE APPEARS TO BE

WAY TOO MUCH CAPPING OVER NORTHERN MISSOURI. CURRENTLY MLCIN

VALUES ARE AROUND 100 J/KG. NOW THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE OUTFLOW IN

FAR EASTERN NEBRASKA LOOKS MORE REASONABLE TO CONVECT...ESPECIALLY

NORTH OF OMAHA WHERE CAPPING IS LESS SUBSTANTIAL. ANTICIPATING

CONVECTION TO DEVELOP THERE TOWARDS 21Z...WITH CORFIDI VECTORS

SUGGESTING A MOVEMENT EASTWARD THEN SOUTHEASTWARD THROUGH IOWA TONIGHT.

THE 02.00Z HIRES ARW MODEL RUN AT NCEP SEEMS TO HANDLE THIS WELL...

AND ALSO MIMICS WHERE SPC DAY 1 MODERATE RISK AREA EXISTS. PERHAPS

A PORTION OF THIS MCS CLUSTER MAY CLIP OUR NORTHEAST IOWA

COUNTIES TONIGHT...LIKELY AFTER 01Z OR SO. NOW AS FAR AS POSSIBLE

DEVELOPMENT OVER THE FORECAST AREA. AM NOT SURE HOW FAR NORTH THE

OUTFLOW BOUNDARY CAN MAKE IT UNDER THE CAP THIS AFTERNOON.

HOWEVER...IT DOES APPEAR THIS EVENING THERE WILL BE AN INCREASE IN

850MB MOISTURE TRANSPORT WITH THE NOSE POINTING INTO LOCATIONS

SOUTH OF I-90. 02.00Z ECMWF...WHICH IS HANDLING THE CURRENT

CONVECTION FAIRLY WELL...SHOWS THIS MOISTURE TRANSPORT SURGE THE

BEST. SO WOULD ENVISION MAYBE AFTER 22/23Z CONVECTION FIRING

ACROSS NORTHERN IOWA...THEN SPREADING EAST ALONG THE GRADIENT OF

MOISTURE TRANSPORT. REGARDING OTHER MODEL DATA...PROBLEMS WITH A

LOT OF IT IS EITHER THEY ARE NOT MIMICKING THE OUTFLOW BOUNDARY

WELL IN THE WIND FIELDS...AND/OR THE DEWPOINTS ARE WAY TOO HIGH

ACROSS IOWA. THEREFORE...THIS FORECAST LEANS TOWARDS THE 22.00Z

HIRES ARW/ECMWF MODELS.

SEVERE WEATHER RISKS STILL APPEAR TO BE LARGE HAIL...DAMAGING

WINDS AND HEAVY RAIN. CANNOT RULE OUT COMPLETELY A TORNADO

OCCURING...BUT WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE THAT OUTFLOW BOUNDARY LIFT

NORTH INTO THE AREA. IF ANY SPOT HAS A CHANCE TO SEE A TORNADO IT

WOULD BE IN NORTHEAST IOWA...CLOSEST TO THE OUTFLOW LIFTING NORTH.

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MKX's thoughts on today and tonight:

DEEPER MIXING IS TAKING PLACE IN SOUTHEAST WI NEAR THE LAKE AND

SHOULD CONTINUE THROUGH AT LEAST EARLY AFTERNOON.

DRY WEATHER EXPECTED ACROSS WHOLE FORECAST AREA UNTIL AFTER 00Z.

THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT A FIRST ROUND OF CONVECTION COULD FIRE

UP IN NORTHEAST IOWA AND TRACK EAST ACROSS SOUTHERN WI AS THE 850MB

LOW LEVEL JET NOSES INTO THE AREA. HOWEVER...RESIDUAL CLOUDS AND

STABLE ATMOSPHERE DUE TO LAST NIGHT/S CONVECTION MAY HINDER THAT

DEVELOPMENT.

CONVECTION IS NEARLY IMMINENT IN EASTERN NEBRASKA LATE THIS

AFTERNOON AND A CLUSTER OF THUNDERSTORMS WILL TRACK EAST OVERNIGHT.

THEY MAY TRACK JUST SOUTH OF THE WI BORDER OR MAY GO RIGHT ACROSS

SOUTHERN WISCONSIN.

EXPECTING A LULL BEHIND THAT ROUND OF CONVECTION THROUGH LATE

MORNING. THEN ALL BETS ARE OFF AS TO WHEN AND WHERE THE NEXT ROUND

OF CONVECTION WILL FIRE SINCE THAT WILL DEPEND ON TONIGHT/S

CONVECTION.

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DTX Aviation update isn't awesome sounding...

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI

150 PM EDT WED MAY 2 2012

.AVIATION...

//DISCUSSION...

A WARM FRONT WILL ADVANCE ACROSS SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN THROUGH THE

LATTER HALF OF THE DAY. WHILE THIS WILL PROVIDE AN INCREASINGLY

MOIST AND UNSTABLE ENVIRONMENT THROUGH EARLY EVENING...CONFIDENCE IN

POTENTIAL THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT/COVERAGE ALONG THIS BOUNDARY

REMAINS QUITE LOW. THE WINDOW FOR THUNDERSTORMS APPEARS SMALL

/20-23Z/...AND GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY WILL HOLD OFF ON DEFINING ANY

SPECIFIC TSRA MENTION WITH THIS TAF PACKAGE. A WELL MIXED

SOUTH-SOUTHWEST WIND EMERGING WITHIN THE FRONTAL PASSAGE WILL BRING

SOME GUSTS TO 20 KNOTS PRIOR TO 00Z.

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MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0660

NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

0157 PM CDT WED MAY 02 2012

AREAS AFFECTED...LOWER MI

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH POSSIBLE

VALID 021857Z - 022030Z

PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...40 PERCENT

SUMMARY...POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR AN INCREASING SEVERE TSTM THREAT THIS

AFTERNOON ACROSS EAST/SOUTHEAST PORTIONS OF LOWER MI...WHICH COULD

INCLUDE A RISK FOR A TORNADO ASIDE FROM SEVERE HAIL/WIND.

DISCUSSION...IT APPEARS THAT THE REGION IS BEING INFLUENCED BY THE

SOUTHERN/TRAILING PORTION OF A NORTHEAST-MOVING SHORTWAVE TROUGH

OVER THE UPPER GREAT LAKES REGION INTO ONTARIO THIS AFTERNOON. A

RECENT INCREASE/DEEPENING OF THE CU FIELD HAS BEEN NOTED IN

EAST-CENTRAL LOWER MI PER VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY...AND THIS

ROUGHLY COINCIDES WITH A CORRIDOR OF MAXIMIZED CONVERGENCE NEAR A

WEAK FRONTAL WAVE/WARM FRONT. THERMODYNAMIC MODIFICATIONS TO THE 12Z

OBSERVED SOUNDING FROM DETROIT...ALONG WITH SHORT-TERM RAP

GUIDANCE/SPC OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS...SUGGEST THAT CINH IS NOW

NEGLIGIBLE WITH A CORRIDOR OF MODERATE INSTABILITY EXTENDING

NORTHEASTWARD INTO SOUTHEAST/EAST-CENTRAL LOWER MI.

AMID RELATIVELY STRONG DEEP LAYER SOUTHWESTERLY

FLOW...ORGANIZED/SUSTAINED STORM MODES INCLUDING SOME SUPERCELLS

WOULD BE POSSIBLE SHOULD DEEP CONVECTIVE INITIATION OCCUR...WITH A

TORNADO AND HAIL/WIND RISK CONDITIONALLY POSSIBLE.

HOWEVER...UNCERTAINTY CURRENTLY EXISTS REGARDING THE

LIKELIHOOD/EXTENT OF SAID SEVERE THREAT...ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT

MID-LEVEL WAVE WILL BE MOVING AWAY FROM THE REGION AND MASS

CONVERGENCE/DEEP LAYER SHEAR SHOULD SLOWLY ABATE WITH TIME.

SHORT-TERM TRENDS ARE BEING CLOSELY MONITORED FOR A POSSIBLE WATCH.

..GUYER/CARBIN.. 05/02/2012

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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI

357 PM EDT WED MAY 2 2012

SHORT TERM

THROUGH TONIGHT

A RATHER CHALLENING AND ILL-DEFINED FORECAST /MAINLY IN TERMS OF

THUNDER POTENTIAL/ BOTH IN THE IMMEDIATE NEAR TERM AND AGAIN LATE

TONIGHT. AT THE SURFACE...LATEST ANALYSIS WRAPS A WARM FRONT FROM

THE DETROIT CORRIDOR NORTHWEST ALONG I-75 AND THEN WEST THE LAKE MI

SHORELINE SOUTH OF LUDINGTON. A GOOD PUSH OF WARM/MOIST AIR

ADVECTION ALONG THE BACKEDGE OF THIS FRONTAL ZONE...AIDED BY DEEP

MIXING...EFFECTIVELY DRIVING TEMPERATURES WELL INTO THE 70S TO

AROUND 80F SOUTH. WHILE STRONGER LOW LEVEL DESTABILIZATION WILL

REMAIN DEFINED TO OUR SOUTH/WEST...RECENT SPC MESOANALYSIS SUGGESTS

A WINDOW FOR 0-1 KM MLCAPE TO ACHIEVE 1000-1500 J/KG ALONG AND SOUTH

OF I-96 PRIOR TO SUNSET.

DESPITE THE GROWING LOW LEVEL INSTABILITY AND PRESENCE OF A WARM

FRONT...THE OVERALL SETUP STILL LACKS A MORE DEFINED FORCING

MECHANISM TO ANCHOR CONVECTION AND CARRIES SOME CONCERNS AT THE MID

LEVELS. WEAK LOW TO MID LEVEL CONVERGENCE AXIS CURRENTLY MARCHING

EAST ACROSS SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN PROMOTING LITTLE MORE THAN SOME LOWER

BASED CU DEVELOPMENT AT PRESS TIME. PLAUSIBLE SCENARIO REMAINS OVER

THE NEXT 2-3 HOURS FOR SOME CONBINATION OF THIS BOUNDARY AND THE

WARM FRONT TO FOCUS SCATTERED CONVECTION ACROSS THE SOUTH/EAST.

NOTING THE RAPID CLEARING WORKING ACROSS WEST-CENTRAL LOWER

MI...THERE DOES APPEAR TO BE A HIGHER DEGREE OF SUBSIDENCE WORKING

IN BEHIND THIS FEATURE...SO THE WINDOW FOR DEVELOPMENT LOOKS SMALL

/THROUGH 22Z/. IN ADDITION...MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES REMAIN MODEST.

THIS CONDITIONAL CONVECTIVE THREAT WILL CARRY A RISK OF SEVERE

WEATHER GIVEN A BACKGROUND WESTERLY WIND FIELD CONTAINING 25-30

KNOTS OF DEEP LAYER SHEAR.

SUBSIDENCE WILL RAPIDLY MITIGATE THIS CONVECTIVE OPPORTUNITY HEADING

INTO THE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT PERIOD. ATTENTION WILL REFOCUS TO

THE WEST AS ADDITIONAL NOCTURNAL DEVELOPMENT LIKELY ORGANIZES INTO

ONE MORE MCS ACROSS THE MIDWEST. POTENTIAL WILL EXIST FOR SOME

REMNANT OF THIS ACTIVITY TO SPILL EAST/NORTHEAST AND BE AT THE

DOORSTEP AS THE LOW LEVEL JET FORCING VEERS TOWARD DAYBREAK. A MILD

NIGHT AHEAD...WITH LOWS IN THE UPPER 50S/LOWER 60S.

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There are some pretty looking parameters in SEMI right now (cape 2000-3000, supercell composite of 12, STP of 2, EHI of 6, etc)... problem is these will be on the decline and initiation, if it happens at all, won't be for another couple hours.

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There are some pretty looking parameters in SEMI right now (cape 2000-3000, supercell composite of 12, STP of 2, EHI of 6, etc)... problem is these will be on the decline and initiation, if it happens at all, won't be for another couple hours.

With each passing minute, today is looking more and more like a cap bust. Or, more accurately (since there is essentially no CIN according to mesoanalysis), there's just not enough of a trigger. Oh well, what can you do. The good news is, there's more chances tomorrow and Friday.

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Cells popping in Canada, looks like we have to wait for tonight around here. West of here Chicago and IL should get rocking late this evening though.

Things might pop in Wanye county, and Monroe just as the convergence zone exits the state.

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Quad Cities nws now also beginning to talk down tonight's action. Sheesh. For days tonight was expected to be a big night.

All the cloud debris/leftover festering convection tomorrow morning will probably have an impact on tomorrow night's action too. Wouldn't be surprised to see the 30% probs dropped on the new day1. Already took away the hatched.

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Talking about the possible reduction in on-site surveys, it sounds like this is one of them.

Central Indiana - At least one tornado has been confirmed as part of the severe weather that produced flooding rains, hail to golf ball size and areas of wind damage Tuesday afternoon and evening. The tornado touched down southeast of Crawfordsville near New Ross along County Road 500S between CR625E and CR700E. From eyewitness Skywarn storm spotters' reports, pictures and videos of the tornado and damage, and from Indianapolis TV stations' damage pictures, the tornado is being rated preliminarily as an EF1 with winds estimated between 100 mph and 110 mph. The tornado began at approximately 736 pm, was on the ground for about a half mile, and lifted around 737 pm. The damage rating was based on a destroyed barn, and damaged nearby homes, trees and power poles.

Other reports of brief tornadoes near Yeddo south of Veedersburg, near Cory southeast of Terre Haute, and near Columbus are still being investigated by county emergency management. As new details become available, they will be updated in this news story.

Just getting caught up. I think they are making a big mistake in not sending NWS teams out to do damage surveys. There is a whole list of objections, not the least being a compromise of scientific study. I think that there is a thread on here somewhere discussing this, so I won't belabor the point.

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There is some development now just W of the Quad Cities. Also an E-W oriented boundary pushing north across southern WI looks to be the northern edge of the nocturnal LLJ in progress. Looks like stuff may fire north of that line first, then the squall line pushes east across all of southern WI and northern IL if it consolidates. Probably not going to reach Lake Michigan until around midnight though, unless more cells can develop ahead.

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There is some development now just W of the Quad Cities. Also an E-W oriented boundary pushing north across southern WI looks to be the northern edge of the nocturnal LLJ in progress. Looks like stuff may fire north of that line first, then the squall line pushes east across all of southern WI and northern IL if it consolidates. Probably not going to reach Lake Michigan until around midnight though, unless more cells can develop ahead.

midnight?!?...not even close

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