A-L-E-X Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I remember KPOU reported FZRA and a temperature of 1. lol yeah the hudson valley had temps in the single digits with heavy freezing rain back in Jan 94. Meanwhile we were in the low 20s with the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Surprising turn of events to say the least. Every time I try to get out, they pull me back in! lol why would you get out on a storm thats 8 days awy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opengeo Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 lol why would you get out on a storm thats 8 days awy? It was said in jest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillzPirate Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 folks no need to worry. This result would mean snow in eastern NC for 2 weeks in a row in early December... never going to happen. Its laughable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 if the -nao block fails in the long range we are gonna be swimming at the jersey and long island beaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 It was said in jest. lol whoops sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opengeo Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 lol whoops sorry No worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Surprising turn of events to say the least. Every time I try to get out, they pull me back in! 0z tonight, another boatload of solutions. Any opinions on which Model guidance has it much more plausible at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 wow talk bout a cold long range, take a look when you can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opengeo Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 0z tonight, another boatload of solutions. Any opinions on which Model guidance has it much more plausible at this point? No idea, man. No idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 wow talk bout a cold long range, take a look when you can Yeah, that cold is nothing to laugh about. Bitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUweathermanDD Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 wow talk bout a cold long range, take a look when you can Wow, and when you think its going to turn zonal by looking at 850's, you then check 2m's and we don't get above freezing even down here around SE Baltimore. Wow. -15 C readings at one point in there for some in the MA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 No idea, man. No idea. The beauty of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 0z tonight, another boatload of solutions. Any opinions on which Model guidance has it much more plausible at this point? honestly, each camp is very plausible, i would still give the weight towards the euro, esp since the mjo is in a horrible phase for east coast snowstorms. Then again if the -nao holds in tack the gfs is plausible.. Honestly, like i have been saying that clipper holds the cards forthe 2nd storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 honestly, each camp is very plausible, i would still give the weight towards the euro, esp since the mjo is in a horrible phase for east coast snowstorms. Then again if the -nao holds in tack the gfs is plausible.. Honestly, like i have been saying that clipper holds the cards forthe 2nd storm Yeah, many have been leaning towards the Euro based on the synoptic set-up around that time, but then again the clipper can change the feeding of the cold air for the second storm plenty. Is the lack of a -NAO on the Euro allowing the storm to cut through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkrangers Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 400 miles too far east So the Euro goes through the apps GFS is OTS Ill take the middle thanks This. Split the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 What does the 18z DGEX show? Is it out yet? Yes I'm seriously asking lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 honestly, each camp is very plausible, i would still give the weight towards the euro, esp since the mjo is in a horrible phase for east coast snowstorms. Then again if the -nao holds in tack the gfs is plausible.. Honestly, like i have been saying that clipper holds the cards forthe 2nd storm Since it seems very possible that the Euro is breaking down the -NAO too quickly, I definitely think the GFS could be on to something instead of clueless. But, we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 The cold in the long range is non stop. If we get any snow it should stick around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 What does the 18z DGEX show? Is it out yet? Yes I'm seriously asking lol. Looks exactly like the GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Yeah, many have been leaning towards the Euro based on the synoptic set-up around that time, but then again the clipper can change the feeding of the cold air for the second storm plenty. Is the lack of a -NAO on the Euro allowing the storm to cut through? no i dont think so. Its a combo that it really deepens the storm in the midwest and also the clipper doesnt drag the cold air down like the gfs does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Everyone's favorite "well respected" MET (Henry M)...well besides JB says the 18z GFS is right where you want it - if you are an I95er. I personally don't get caught up in any models outside of 72 hrs but I do love watching folks live and die with these 6 day+ runs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 is the storm there? check is the cold air there? check are the models everywhere right now? check this means we should all just sit back and wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Everyone's favorite "well respected" MET (Henry M)...well besides JB says the 18z GFS is right where you want it - if you are an I95er. I personally don't get caught up in any models outside of 72 hrs but I do love watching folks live and die with these 6 day+ runs Why do I feel like I am on the Titanic and Henry is the Captain ? Anyways he does have a point but adds little insight into why. The GFS does make more sense in this pattern then the EURO BUT Both Henry and the GFS don't have very good track records overall........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Well I wouldn't think it would be so amplified as the Euro suggests, it is a La Nina, the blocking is lackluster for the storm, so I would favor a more progressive pattern which would allow the storm to get further east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Surprising turn of events to say the least. Every time I try to get out, they pull me back in! Classic Line by George Costanza! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I wonder if the ECMWF is breaking the block too fast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 Classic Line by George Costanza! Also by Silvio Dante on the Sopranos....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 is the storm there? check is the cold air there? check are the models everywhere right now? check this means we should all just sit back and wait and see Keeping everyone level-headed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I wonder if the ECMWF is breaking the block too fast? A very distinct possibility. It's been doing this for a week plus now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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