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I don't know if saying the can is being kicked or things are "delayed" is correct? I mean, losing the TPV rolling under the block to SE Can and becoming a stable 50/50 feature forced the whole pattern to take on a different look. That TPV was the original catalyst for cold mid and low level flow and would be in place right now. We are now required to manufacture our own beast of a 50/50 or wait for the PAC to cooperate. This is different from modeling being slow on the cold press and things are just taking their time evolving.

I know the RMM plots don't necessarily tell the whole picture but interesting that the GEFS pretty much went all in on the MJO reemerging into 1,2. Curious if todays runs start to shift to a colder outcome in the LR.

Still D10ish away on the eps. By D13 things really start looking nice. But, I agree...A change in the PAC is still a figment of LR modeling imagination. D13

The end of the EPS run again with an Aleutian low getting into a nice position. Impressive HB. Follows pretty well what the weeklies showed for week 3.

If anything, at least this gfs op run resembles what its ens have been spitting out.

Nice to see our threat windows becoming a bit more clear today. Ind ens members continue to get snowier as well. A steady march in the right direction today, imo.

lol yeah, that's called a 50/50 hopes and dreams shredder!

Your mention of Bob Ryan made me a bit nostalgic . Anyone remember Gordon Barnes? Felt like he was a radio meteorologist in the 80's. Remember clearly listening to him forecast a storm 3 days in advance..."30% chance of snow" we ended up with 11" of powder. No knock on Gordon...just a sign of the times. Play it safe until its not safe. lol

Another image to clutter the thread it but shows an interesting feature off the west coast. Over the past 24 hours the GEFS have trended to make the trough east of HI the dominant trough in the PAC. Not strong enough to send a major PNA ridge up and force a cold/dry pattern but enough to entice some mild ridging in the rockies. Maybe this feature will be what spins off plenty pieces of energy to play with as the NAO matures/relaxes.

BWI: 22.4 DCA: 17.1 IAD: 27.4 RIC: 10.6 SBY: 14.2

Good to hear from you man. Patience no doubt for the both of us but the coastal plain may have to be even more patient. I did like the 12z eps not just for the burnt orange in right spots but also the quicker release of the "handshake" between the Canadian TPV and the break-off ULL off Cali. Resulting in a more neutral PNA. I get the pitfalls of parsing LR progs but the stout NAO seems like a pretty good bet. The ancillary pluses and minuses may dictate whether we need to break out snowblowers or just continue our Nina frustration. At least the beginning of this flick has grabbed our attention!

Not that we have had a shortage of beautiful looks but this EPS run was stellar. ^ Very end of the run shows a retrograding tough into the east coast with a stable and stout west based block.

It is pretty nice to see ens of all 3 globals with a robust block that appears stable. One constant moving forward is the supply of 50/50 lows. Even through the brief warm up coming we still see this feature.

12z gefs with a workable PAC now late in the run. Pretty sizable shift toward CAPE's eps post earlier.

21. Coldest morning of the season

This was just figured out last year?

Regarding the Thanksgiving time storm potential. Yesterday's 12z run the GEFS started the idea of backing the trough off the west coast. Some those runs that nose a fresh cold high down in time may start to get some legs. Ens now showing surface high pressure in SE Can and New England compared to 24 hours ago.

It has been rain since the leading edge came through as snow. Changed to a mod sleet/rain mix now.

First flakes of the season! 35 degrees

Someone is going to thump tomorrow evening. Maybe closer in than previously modeled as things today have inched cooler.

1.8" total

Dude, the Monday before thanksgiving is only 10 days away. lol. You act like peeps are wanting snow in sept.

100%. I had a legit case of the flu during the 16 blizzard and still when out every few hours just to feel the fury. Biggest snow I have ever witnessed but felt like arse.

If anything, Ian has left the beaches of NJ south to the outer banks vulnerable as we head deeper into Fall. Some of the beach erosion in NJ has been pretty bad.

Looks like some lightning in those cells heading west! Maybe the heaviest batch of the event for the eastern folks.