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All 3 globals with a solid signal for scan ridging to return D12-15. With the MJO forecast to pretty much mirror its last rotation you have to wonder if we set this whole pattern progression up again early Jan.

Exactly....Eastern shore signal. I think CAPE should start his own forum for coastal areas and off shore oil rigs. LOL j/k

Agreed but I have found that light wind is best. Too much wind and or heavier precip both help to encourage mixing of what is typically a very shallow subfreezing surface layer.

A lot is going to depend on cloud cover early in the eve/night. We are not coming out of a cold period where surfaces are already below freezing and temps seem to be in that 30-32 range during any icing. Unless things tick colder by 2-3 degrees I just don't see this being much of an issue outside of the far western valleys.

I think I can hear the Jaws theme....

Cheers my friend! Class of 2000... Showing my age! lol

Had a roommate at WVU who's memory was very similar. So frustrating seeing him party while I studied my butt off and he still scored higher that I did. It is def a gift.

^That west based block looking better on each ens run

Single digits and a fresh 4-8" carpet of white on xmas morn. Book it!

Who would have thought we would be looking at a PAC and Arctic that looks like this as we near the end of Dec? Appears pretty stable at the end of the runs as well. +QBO, -PDO, Nina

06 GEFS mad a sig move toward a euro type solution. Long duration, tucked low. 4.5/5 days from when the low starts to reform somewhere in the SE. Cautiously optimistic that we are starting to see some general agreement. Obviously, the convoluted progression remains a red flag but can't deny the developments over the past 24 hours.

I haven't looked this morning yet but I was bored yesterday and looked into the the few 12z EPS members that created a MA mauler late next week. Every single one had a much weaker ULL especially as it started to to feel the block and dive SE. 06z gfs is a good representation of this. 06z gfs with 3 snow events and what looks like a good one setting up for xmas day. Snow on snow xmas day? Come on! EJ would lose his mind...

I really don't know to be honest. I would have thought that modeling would have at least been in the ballpark with this particular TPV. It was certainly a large feature in the NH and usually those are handle fairly well in the LR. But, maybe someone can correct me. To see that thing bounce like a rubber ball back to the west was a true Lucy yanking the football situation!

I don't know if saying the can is being kicked or things are "delayed" is correct? I mean, losing the TPV rolling under the block to SE Can and becoming a stable 50/50 feature forced the whole pattern to take on a different look. That TPV was the original catalyst for cold mid and low level flow and would be in place right now. We are now required to manufacture our own beast of a 50/50 or wait for the PAC to cooperate. This is different from modeling being slow on the cold press and things are just taking their time evolving.

I know the RMM plots don't necessarily tell the whole picture but interesting that the GEFS pretty much went all in on the MJO reemerging into 1,2. Curious if todays runs start to shift to a colder outcome in the LR.

Still D10ish away on the eps. By D13 things really start looking nice. But, I agree...A change in the PAC is still a figment of LR modeling imagination. D13

The end of the EPS run again with an Aleutian low getting into a nice position. Impressive HB. Follows pretty well what the weeklies showed for week 3.

If anything, at least this gfs op run resembles what its ens have been spitting out.

Nice to see our threat windows becoming a bit more clear today. Ind ens members continue to get snowier as well. A steady march in the right direction today, imo.

lol yeah, that's called a 50/50 hopes and dreams shredder!

Your mention of Bob Ryan made me a bit nostalgic . Anyone remember Gordon Barnes? Felt like he was a radio meteorologist in the 80's. Remember clearly listening to him forecast a storm 3 days in advance..."30% chance of snow" we ended up with 11" of powder. No knock on Gordon...just a sign of the times. Play it safe until its not safe. lol

Another image to clutter the thread it but shows an interesting feature off the west coast. Over the past 24 hours the GEFS have trended to make the trough east of HI the dominant trough in the PAC. Not strong enough to send a major PNA ridge up and force a cold/dry pattern but enough to entice some mild ridging in the rockies. Maybe this feature will be what spins off plenty pieces of energy to play with as the NAO matures/relaxes.

BWI: 22.4 DCA: 17.1 IAD: 27.4 RIC: 10.6 SBY: 14.2

Good to hear from you man. Patience no doubt for the both of us but the coastal plain may have to be even more patient. I did like the 12z eps not just for the burnt orange in right spots but also the quicker release of the "handshake" between the Canadian TPV and the break-off ULL off Cali. Resulting in a more neutral PNA. I get the pitfalls of parsing LR progs but the stout NAO seems like a pretty good bet. The ancillary pluses and minuses may dictate whether we need to break out snowblowers or just continue our Nina frustration. At least the beginning of this flick has grabbed our attention!

Not that we have had a shortage of beautiful looks but this EPS run was stellar. ^ Very end of the run shows a retrograding tough into the east coast with a stable and stout west based block.