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Well that's not good.
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Going ahead with a thread for 90L. It already has the appearance on visible in the lower level cloud field of possessing a closed surface low. This may get classified by this evening and be a landfall threat in Mexico or possibly S. Texas. Another slow mover and flooding threat.
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ACE is now skyrocketing. We should be over 100 sometime next week.
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Hrmm...
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I wasn't referring to nuking a hurricane. That in itself is ridiculous. I was referring to the discussion that delved more into storm manipulation by whatever technological means available. There would be consequences and liability issues. Just to be clear, I am not saying we yet have any such capability / technological advancement to manipulate a hurricane or large weather system. It's merely speculation within the confines of a hypothetical what if scenario. The cloud seeding projects in the past might still be all we've managed to experiment with any success or failure.
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Liability is a bitch.
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Ya well we're not going off topic and none of this is proven, only speculation. But I am pretty damn certain that if it could be proven that you redirected a macro-level atmospheric system that caused immense human suffering elsewhere, you're opening up a can of worms no financial institution wants to eat. Nothing withstanding the global ramifications and possible resulting sanctions or war.
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You got something better? That's the rub. Even the best model guidance is sometimes difficult in its usefulness. That's where good old fashioned synoptic-scale forecasting helps. And that can still be off. There's a reason those folks at the NHC are the cream of the crop. Yet they're still not perfect. Neither is the best modeling based on the most powerful super CPU clusters. Hopefully you can just afford some patience and let it play out / unfold.
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Simply put, it's too much airmass to manipulate. And here is the catch 2020. Excuse the pun. Let's say you successfully manipulate a storm. At that point you are responsible for it. If the diversion of this atmospheric phenomenon creates another atmospheric phenomenon that wipes out a city, much less kills a bunch of folks, then it's no longer an Act of God, but a result of your screw up.
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Jesus christ, you could unleash the entire nuclear arsenal and the hurricane would just advect the radioactive wv induced lapse rates and keep on chugging. If nothing else the heat from the detonations might increase evaporation? As for the rest... We humans seem to suck at climate engineering beyond royally fubar'ing everything 1,000,000 x10³.
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ECMWF ensemble consensus is still the best for tracking, period. Sure, they still miss. But there is a reason we still chew nails awaiting their rums.
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If that run were to verify, the hypothetical Caribbean/EGOM system would've been Teddy. The GFS does a weird monsoonal split and breaks off the upper axis first that becomes Sally. It then allows the southwestern extension to close off into Teddy and it gets captured by strong ridging / easterly flow. Sally merges with CATL troughing. Teddy drives into the CONUS. Meh...looks gimmicky and likely to not model that way in future op runs with any consistency.
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Four consecutive ENS runs with overwhelming support for a low latitude CV hurricane next week. Paulette and Rene both recurve. Paulette feels the WAR somewhat and recurves late. That may need to be watched for Bermuda. At any rate, the WAR is modeled with good ensemble support following exit and lift of the ECONUS shortwave. If the next AEW is as organized as modeled, it's going to have a shot at running the entirety of the MDR without a TUTT in place. There might be some backside upper influences of a stronger Paulette in the mid-range. However, with an EATL cutoff, most downstream upper 200 hPa flow would likely divert eastward. Simply put, next week may very well be prime time for a legitimate long-tracking major hurricane if it's going to be a reality this season. Additionally, the WPAC is entering a period of quiescence. Combining both quiet WPAC and EPAC basins, the N. Atlantic's upper tropospheric setup for the next 2-3 weeks likely supports several long-trackers. Additionally, the MJO is in a phase that is more supportive of eastern MDR development and would favor TCG becoming more frequent east of 50ºW. You do not need 200 hPa vorticity anomalies in the WATL if you already have established westward tracking TCs. Their anticyclones will take care of themselves barring negative TUTT/PV interaction. So as we progress through the next 2-3 weeks, tracking patterns are going to be key here. Where are the shortwaves versus ridges and what are their timings with potential TCs? We're going to have several recurves, no doubt. But if a few TCs form at low latitudes or time as a trough kicks out, I'd say the Antilles, Caribbean, Bahamas and SECONUS will have several threats by the time we enter October. Another thing to keep in mind is the pattern setup and MDR systems may last through mid-October. The past five years have seen later dates in MDR development versus climatological mean. Considering that we have a strengthening La Niña and positive AMO, this year may continue that trend.
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Ah it's just cool enough to break out the firepit.
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I mean part of an active season, especially hyperactive is your general September central Atlantic hurricanes. They usually produce a big chunk of ACE and most of the hyperactive years have them. I just enjoy tracking, attempting forecasts and observing the outcomes. Whether they are land threats or not matters little to me. Though I would prefer they avoid populated areas. A big CV hurricane is my favorite even if it threatens nothing but shipping. Aside from Dorian, Lorenzo was an incredible storm to track as well last year. Perhaps we'll get a few beasts over the next month.
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lol... yeah. I am not innocent of this. But unfortunately it's all we've got, good or bad. There is no doubt the operationals in general have struggled this season missing TCGs until they're already occurring in real time. Now if they miss on actual modeled TCGs and none or very few actually pan out IRL, well then...
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Ensembles and operationals into the mid-range are hinting at an outbreak in the MDR. Two to three long-tracking hurricanes, especially given any left-behind stalls would increase seasonal ACE substantially regardless of any land threats. We'll definitely have to watch for anything that might remain shallow and develop near 60°W with the amplified NW ridge could capture and drive a potential system into the Antilles, Bahamas or ECONUS. And as[mention=9730]WxWatcher007[/mention] allluded to, could be a surprise in the GOM and potential threat with an amplified pattern in place.
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000 WTNT41 KNHC 030252 TCDAT1 Hurricane Nana Discussion Number 8 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL162020 1000 PM CDT Wed Sep 02 2020 After the center of Nana nearly became exposed during the late afternoon, a new burst of convection developed near and to the south of the center which has resulted in strengthening this evening. Very recently received data from an Air Force Reserve reconnaissance aircraft has indicated that Nana has become a hurricane. The plane has measured a peak 700-mb flight-level wind of 72 kt to the north of the center, and peak SFMR winds of 62 kt earlier this evening. These data support an initial intensity of 65 kt, making Nana the fifth hurricane of the 2020 Atlantic basin hurricane season. Since Nana should make landfall along the coast of Belize within the next several hours, little additional strengthening is expected before the center crosses the coast. Rapid weakening will occur after landfall, and the new 12 through 36 hour intensity forecast reflects this. The low-level center is likely to dissipate over mountainous terrain within 48 hours, if not sooner. Nana is moving just south of due west at about 265/14 kt. A low- to mid-level ridge to the north of Nana should keep it moving on a west-southwestward motion during the next day or so. The guidance enveloped has shifted slightly southward and the new NHC track forecast has been adjusted accordingly. KEY MESSAGES: 1. Hurricane conditions and a dangerous storm surge will spread onshore along portions of the coast of Belize within the Hurricane Warning area through early Thursday. 2. Tropical storm conditions are expected in the tropical storm warning areas in Belize, the Bay Islands, Guatemala, and the Yucatan Peninsula of Mexico through early Thursday. 3. Heavy rainfall with isolated maximum amounts as high as 8 to 12 inches could result in flash flooding in Belize, Guatemala, and portions of southeastern Mexico and the Yucatan Peninsula. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 03/0300Z 17.0N 87.5W 65 KT 75 MPH 12H 03/1200Z 16.8N 89.2W 50 KT 60 MPH...INLAND 24H 04/0000Z 16.4N 91.6W 30 KT 35 MPH...INLAND 36H 04/1200Z 16.0N 93.9W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW 48H 05/0000Z...DISSIPATED $$ Forecaster Brown
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Ugh... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/03/typhoon-maysak-ship-with-43-crew-and-nearly-6000-cattle-missing-off-japan -
lol... No, that would be unwise since they are legitimate tropical climatologists. Hugging operational model outputs isn't how long-range forecasting works. It isn't particularly great for debating long-range on a tropical message board either. But I digress...
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In a nutshell, mid-range modeling has sucked this year for upper pattern features. Look at this GFS shear forecast when 99L (pre-Nana) was developing in the eastern Caribbean and tell me what you see and do not see? Edit: Might help if I post the right image. At any rate, it's probably unwise to bank on smaller upper anticyclonic features versus larger regional upper ridging. You can easily get burned when a small upper trough or pinched PV is underdone. Clearly the northerly shear was underdone in this case when trying to figure out potential setup three days in advance for 99L versus just having an overall larger / regional upper 200 hPa ridge. Even those don't always go perfectly. See: Laura with strong backflow upper convergence on the TC as it moved south of the Cuban shoreline. The following image is from 12z Sunday.
