LongBeachSurfFreak

Somewhere in 10-12” range currently at Stratton. SN+ continues

It was more like 8 that went to a heavy rain on the south shore of Long Island. Which would fit this winter.

About 5” so far at 900’ SvT. A couple power flickers but still on so far.

This is our 1995 repeat, one shot storm in my opinion.

That’s was my thinking. Normal people aren’t watching the dual pol and cams obsessively, checking precip types and just assumed 8-10” of snow had fallen not 2” of sleet and 2” of snow. The trees up high are gorgeous with some of the best rime In years

Tons and tons of rime above 2k in SvT. The trees are going to have a serious bend after this storm cycle

Exactly, the differences can be extreme. I only had a foot at my house at 900’ during the December storm, while above 2k it was 24”+. My favorite snow spot in the area is on 30 by the old snow valley resort. When I look to buy up here eventually it will be in that area. Overall this looks like a good one here, after the warm air aloft crushed hearts and dreams with round one.

Had to have been a record crowd yesterday at Stratton. I have never seen cars parked for a mile down some of the access roads. And of course with the crowds everything skied off quick. Ended up having less snow and more sleet then forecast with the first storm. On to round 2.

Staying up in southern Vermont for this one. Absolutely worth a vacation day. Currently flurries with a coating that fell over night at Stratton, which should be in a very good spot for this.

Based on low level wind flow temps along the coast will be in upper 30s as precip moves in. So even if there is snow falling from colder air aloft, your going to need some heavy rates to get anything to accumulate. It will be a rates driven scenario, light snow and warm surface temps aren’t going to cut it.

Interesting, i work at Columbia a couple blocks from the parks and we had a very solid coating on all colder surfaces, so the park did as well.

Even if the park does manage a coating don’t expect it to be measured. We absolutely had a coating during the December event, I have pics to prove it, and it wasn’t recorded.

Townsend VT? I’ll be at my house in west Townsend VT later until Monday. Sleet was the big issue with round one. Hopefully round 2 produces.

Minus being overweight, pretty much me… Historically it was never a 100% chance you were going to get a ton of overtime ever winter, but even the 80s had several events requiring snow removal each winter.

A strong nino actually isn’t what you want. 82/83 and 15/16 lucked out with one big storm. 97/98 is more typical of what to expect with a strong nino. What you want is a weak to moderate nino.

97/98 made it to March with .5”. There will still be blockbuster winters in the future, but also allot of these everything goes wrong years as well. We were always on the border of a true snow and winter region New England and the paltry mid Atlantic. Unfortunately we are moving into their zone, where duds are just part of the deal.

A good snowy winter could mean doubling my annual salary in overtime. That’s a serious hit. Luckily for me I have other projects I work on to supplement when it isn’t going to snow. I have friends who do snow removal privately and the only way to make that work anymore is to sign contracts ahead of time. That, then comes with the risk we have a blockbuster winter. Which in my opinion will still happen moving forward. Feast or famine is the new snow reality in our area.

The guys a legend for a reason. I have allot of respect for the fork!

What a disaster of a winter. I’m not saying I’m going to starve because it hasn’t snowed but for those of us that have financial ties to snow this hurts. Snow removal = overtime for thousands of workers and business for many small businesses. You really can’t rely on it like you could in the past.

Main thread is pretty funny right now. Liberty has a conversation with himself, with occasional gloating from snowman (it’s his winter can’t deny it) and the occasional Metsfan looking for hope. I will say at least no ones beating each other up, NE forum is fully of the rails.

Something is seriously shady with the amount of salters I saw dumping tons of salt on the way into work on the uws. I run snow removal for a college and would never dump salt 1. during rain 2. with a solid forecast of above freezing temps. Since salt is damaging to vehicles and the environment something is up. Possibly a good old boys overtime scheme in a low snow winter we’re guys need the money and budgets need to be spent. And or a need to lower stockpiles so that salt contracts can continue in the future. Either way, this is inexcusable. This event is even close to being justified….

I have a theory about warm starts and cool endings to our current climate winters. It has to do with low Arctic sea ice and the resultant albedo effect of open water in our cold air source. It’s still cold enough for most of the Arctic to eventually freeze however. Thus our cold air source is available late season. This is a very simplistic view as it would take pages and pages to prove this. The Arctic is still very sparsely sampled so it’s also hard to prove. But to me the proof is in what we have been experiencing. That’s why I think a shutout is harder to do for us during the second half of the season and we will likely see this many times in the near future.

There was a coating with December event, so even if we do see a coating in the park again late at night and it melts away before morning don’t expect it to be recorded

Exactly, 40-70 means nothing when there isn’t a cold air source. Even at peak climo Along the coast we are at the whims of the ascendent airmass. That’s meteo 101. If you can shave 5-10f off your normals at peak climo (used to be all of us) you can get by. But unfortunately the highest point on the coastal plain doesn’t exceed 1,000’ until Cadillac mountain in maine

Exactly from 7 to 70. Early bulbs like daffodils and crocuses will be popping up by the end of the week