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  1. Yes I agree... shows just how close we came to having a bigger - more extensive problem. I see some decent power outages ne PA, se NYS, just on outside the edge of subforum. I think also, in the tend, the RGEM was best at indicating icing holding to 12z Pocs/se NYS High Point NJ. Took awhile for the RGEM to come to that conclusion.
  2. Regarding the national unprecedented in recent history event. From the NWS, a quick check of the top 10 national coverage's since 2005 per Greg Carbin WPC. --- As many have noted on Twitter and elsewhere over the past 24 hours, the CONUS area covered by Winter Storm Warnings is quite remarkable! That was about 1.6 million square kilometers with active warnings or, put another way, the area currently covered by Winter Storm Warnings over the CONUS is larger than the land area of Alaska. That is crazy and puts the events of these days into some amazing perspective. I wrote a script this afternoon to download all the warning shapefiles from the Iowa Mesonet and take a look at the area covered by Winter Storm Warnings (technically Winter Storm Watches that are upgraded to Warnings) from November 2005 through February 14, 2021. For the 2,158 days with Winter Storm Warnings in effect back to November 2005, the average area covered on any day with active Winter Storm Warnings is about 77,000 km^2, or about the size of South Carolina. The median warning area size is about double that, 142,000 km^2, or about the size of Illinois (using land area sizes from here). The standard deviation of the daily warning size distribution is 170,000 km^2. Thus, the current area covered by Winter Storm Warnings is about 8 sigma above the long-term mean area of Winter Storm Warnings covered on any day with active winter warnings over the past 17 years. Here are the top 10 WS Warning Days since Nov. 2005, based on warning areal coverage: Date WSW Area (km^2) 1) Feb. 14, 2021: 1,558,699 2) Feb. 01, 2011: 1,182,685 3) Dec. 29, 2012: 1,099,780 4) Nov. 26, 2019: 1,091,375 5) Dec. 01, 2007: 1,057,336 6) Mar. 02, 2014: 991,728 7) Feb. 20, 2011: 974,886 8) Dec. 30, 2010: 954,343 9) Dec. 24, 2009: 901,811 10)Dec, 01, 2018: 889,846 -- Greg Carbin | Chief, Forecast Operations Branch NOAA / National Weather Service National Centers for Environmental Prediction Weather Prediction Center
  3. The value of giving yourself wiggle room on perfect prognosis. Added the actual 1157Z obs that got into the verification for 12z/16. Note a touch colder in some of sheltered interior very difficult to handle the gradient. Then the EC op from 00z/16 and GFS/NAM ops from 06z/16 (their 00z versions were similar). A degree or two can make a large difference and EC was just too warm at 12z in the strong temp gradient except southern Manhattan heliport (elevated) and JFK eastward.
  4. An image of the Paper Birch in front of our Wantage NJ home at 715A, and the white pine in our backyard at 645AM.Eestimated .15" Radial Ice. Last 32F wa about 440AM. Melting now but plenty to go. Have no idea why these don't post without a download? F7883524-CAEA-47E0-B429-70EA6280F338.heicF7883524-CAEA-47E0-B429-70EA6280F338.heic
  5. This could be a dud thread, but modeling still has a little snow for the I78 north portion of the forum, but low passage NORTH of our area which doesn't bode well. Still something to monitor but not pin a lot of hope upon.
  6. 517A: A nice solution coming (overall colder and snowier than what modeling was generally offering Friday the 12th) with a range of accumulations of 1" to possibly as much as a foot in the upper high end scenario. Thursday's evenings commute should be snowy for much of the area and see delays, as it readies for a possible change to ice Near I78-LI (rain far south part of the subforum) and then ends Friday, most of it done by sunrise Friday (but with early morning delays/cancels). Too early for me to be sure for the NYC/LI/NNJ membership but plenty of modeling close to half a foot. A watch/warnable snow-ice event seems to be coming for a portion of NYC subforum,. IFFFFF NYC were to report half a foot, that would place NYC in the top 5 snowiest February's. This coming snow-sleet, whatever, should rejuvenate snow depth , and maybe allow half a foot or more for much of the area into Monday Feb 22. One WPC graphic added: the 24 hour prob of 2" of snow by 7P Thursday.
  7. I remember: WX works now? 431A: Still zr- 31.5. Just 54 meters out in our rural coop at 430A, power outages larger Warren County. everything solid ice here. Has to be delays in the County, especially north. Post event summary: SPC HREF exhibits the continuing cold bias and too robust FRAM output until within 12 hours of the event.There fore too far southeast. and too heavy not rewarding good verification but ice did occur e PA much of nw NJ and all I84 corridor. Still a few reports to come, I'm sure. I think the GFSv16 did a good job flagging 0.1-0.4" FRAM accretion where it occurred-forecast. 444A: 32.0F melting should begin shortly. Ice via ASOS radial at 4A looks like an estimated BDL .04, IJD 0.2, POU .07, FWN 0.11 which matches my estimate at 740'MSL, MPO near 1/4". High terrain accrete seems best.
  8. Wantage NJ 4 św 336AM. ZR- brief ZR. 30.6F all glazed, est thickness at least 0.1" Isolated power outages Sussex County NJ
  9. Thanks... power back at 901P. out 3 hrs 25 min. Down to 27.5F
  10. NWS products around 3P. Power outages increasing WVA. 18z RGEm looks a touch colder tonight while the NAM slightly milder. Split the difference. Will all depend on qpf prior to above freezing. lost all our pavement ice while i was away at 29F. We'll see what happens after sunset. ZL- and 29F.
  11. There is probably a ~30 mile shift to west of the problematic power outage 1/4" iso1/2" glaze axis from the early morn ing cycle. 12z HPC HREF here. and the 12z HRRX. Both seem high on amounts due to runoff at marginal temps late tonight but its pretty certain there will be branch/powerline power line problems with treated surfaces possibly mainly wet ne PA/far nw NJ, interior se NYS nw CT, especially east-northeast slopes of the higher terrain. Your judgement. For those east of I287 in NJ, probably little or no problem but I cant rule out problems in ne NJ to the Merritt Parkway.
  12. Remote check: I think moving the axis of greasiest ice impact west 30 miles will work very well. Haven’t checked any details but I95 east agoils be easily manageable but I think differently vicinity ABE-POU-BDL. Along or couple miles northwest of that axis is where ice accum branches and wires will be a problem tonight. Treated roads wet.
  13. Wantage NJ light freezing rain showers and a few ice pellets. 26/21. treated roads wet. all other surfaces icy. some softening due to solar radiation.
  14. For check back Thursday: The Winter Storm Impact graphic which looks a little on the light side for northern PA/ I84 corridor. Not sure why... but either this experimental product doesn't apply power outages, or some of the modeling is too warm? I don't know. Also added for the record the powertoutages, nationally, so that we may check back tomorrow. The only way to learn- in advance. I went back and grabbed the D2 ice WSSI graphic for VA - seemed to underestimate impacts, despite model guidance.
  15. Just one thought' I'm seeing a more eastward trend to the end of the week, possibly because of a little shortwave in advance of the primary trough on Thursday. 00z/19 Friday projection from the 06z/15 MREF shows this. This gives us the first snow WAA shot, but also cools the column a bit as it shoves eastward Thu night while the primary lags slightly. Definitely of interest for those who prefer slightly cooler-southward scenarios. I'm not so confident of as big an ice situation here THU night as tonight. I could be wrong on this.
  16. 610A updated thread....my last topic update and all my other posts will be in the observed below. Adding several graphics to the topic part of the thread from the 4AM NWS forecast process inclusive of the ICE STORM WARNING coverage area (purple), the HPC HREF ensemble 1/2" of glaze expectation by 7A Tuesday (blue), WPC ensemble probs of .10 glaze (orange) by 7A Tuesday and the much lower prob of 1/2" glaze. I would expect power outages in the NWS warning area and SPC HREF Blue coverage area. IF these amounts work out- I think it will be big. Modeling doesn't necessarily guarantee freezing longer than 4AM Tuesday, so if it's not, then the rain is non freezing its heaviest 3 hour period. Still the ground is cold so I'd plan on a bad night, and in fact a bad day today in the I84 corridor on all untreated surfaces. Regarding info near NYC... just be careful. Untreated's slippery near NYC-LI today-this evening, should ease sometime tonight. Looking at 06z/15 NAM FOUS...if that surface wind stays ne in NYC through tonight as the sfc low transits coastal NJ, the guidance will be too warm at the surface. This needs careful monitoring. My guess, via the 06z/15 guidance, there may be an underplaying of extensive ice damage, especially just west of the 4AM warning. Just a degree or two makes a huge difference. I'm not expert enough to know for sure. So for me here in Wantage NJ, if its still 31-32F at 4A Tuesday, we've got pretty big problems in far nw NJ/se NYS/nePA. We will see how the probs work. Prep worst and hope for the best.
  17. 550A. Wantage NJ. Intermittent freezing rain showers since ~430A. Deck icy. 26/20.
  18. Good morning American Weather membership interested in ice. I am no longer posting on this thread, only the OBS thread which is now active with icing. Will not be posting much if at all 930A-4P as in travel.
  19. 610A updated thread....my last topic update and all my other posts will be in the observed below. Adding several graphics from the 4AM NWS forecast process inclusive of the ICE STORM WARNING coverage area (purple), the HPC HREF ensemble 1/2" of glaze expectation by 7A Tuesday (blue), WPC ensemble probs of .10 glaze (orange) by 7A Tuesday and the much lower prob of 1/2" glaze. I would expect power outages in the NWS warning area and SPC HREF Blue coverage area. IF these amounts work out- I think it will be big. Modeling doesn't necessarily guarantee freezing longer than 4AM Tuesday, so if it's not, then the rain is non freezing its heaviest 3 hour period. Still the ground is cold so I'd plan on a bad night, and in fact a bad day today in the I84 corridor on all untreated surfaces. Regarding info near NYC... just be careful. Untreated's slippery near NYC-LI today-this evening, should ease sometime tonight. Looking at 06z/15 NAM FOUS...if that surface wind stays ne in NYC through tonight as the sfc low transits coastal NJ, the guidance will be too warm at the surface. This needs careful monitoring. My guess, via the 06z/15 guidance, there may be an underplaying of extensive ice damage, especially just west of the 4AM warning. Just a degree or two makes a huge difference. I'm not expert enough to know for sure. So for me here in Wantage NJ, if its still 31-32F at 4A Tuesday, we've got pretty big problems in far nw NJ/se NYS/nePA. We will see how the probs work. Prep worst and hope for the best. While a bit of snow is possible Monday along the northern edge of the subforum, most of this event should be freezing rain or rain with heaviest amounts Monday night. Sleet may occur as well for a time Monday. If freezing rain lasts long enough in the warning area of the forum, and accretes thick enough, tree damage and power outages would occur. Spotty poor drainage street flooding is possible in NJ, LI. 21z/14 NWS ensemble high probs for freezing rain and low probs for 1/2" glaze are posted.
  20. 12z/14 EPS consistent on a few inches of snow here many cycles i78 corridor northward on Thursday. Might it end up sleet or ZR? Sure looks nasty Thu night, with as much ice as Monday night I84 corridor. And the flood possible problems associated with short duration heavy qpf, snow melt, ice jammed gutters. Back tomorrow morning.
  21. No additional info from me, at least til 730P. Looks like some tree damage and power outages to me I84 corridor into nw NJ, e central PA. No science on power outages. Should know a lot more tomorrow morning.
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