And just to put folks at ease I want to add, both GEFS and EPS have very workable looks. Just details in the PNA, the SER, the TPV, and NAO depth/location. Not a shut the blinds pattern or shutout signal on either respective model.
I'll play devil's advocate here and urge caution. EPS did this last year where it was rock solid and the LR GEFS waffled around. Ironically, the most consistent EPS was being consistently inaccurate and when we would get within about D+8 the GEFS would hone in on a solution and the 'slow to budge' EPS stubbornly and slowly caved numerous times. Different season of course so who knows. But the GFS family has generally handled Ninas a little better wrt LR ens.
Gambling sharps would say bet the consistent trend tho, right?
Yep. I was just going to add this. The whole ser linkage thing is likely temporary if it even happens at all. It is always a balancing acting with pieces in motion. The more stable look is up top at HL as has been discussed ad nauseum. So i hope nobody took my ppst as being negative whatsoever. Again, a balancing act as always. Some features will flex and be transient, others will be more stable. I as well as many have a rather optimistic outlook on what may happen moving forward.
5 or 6 straight runs post dec 7 it is weaker. Again, just something to monitor, not the end times
Eta: and it may not even make a huge difference tbh as the ser already is getting beat down by that time. Matter of how quickly it flexes again
We usually dont rely on Miller A types or storms coming out of the GOM during Ninas. That ridge reflection is a base state im fairly certain. And wrt your other post, yes the linkage between the NAO and SER isnt unheard of and certainly could be one possibility. Of more importance to me is we are losing that strong TPV near Hudson that ens were showing being almost stationary. That feature was allowing waves/fronts to keep plowing underneath and was heliping to flatten the SER. Something else to keep an eye on. Things could be a million times worse, theres a reason teleconnection perfection is rare.
Why is it nonsense? Pretty common in a Nina. We are always fighting the SER and a general trof on the West coast. Especially given the GEFS is trending rhat direction, it isnt out of the question and is a possibility.
Eta: not saying it's correct. Just saying it could go this way. Have to wait and watch
Still eyeing the middle third of December (10th-20th) for our first legit threat(s) of the season. Not much has morphed/changed wrt the overall pattern progresslon being advertised on the ens means. Scandinavian ridge feeds large negative NAO, EPO ridge noses poleward, TPV migrates into classic positon near Hudson bay, signal for PNA to go neutral/positive with split off the West coast. And now we are starting to see the ops spit out some storms in that period that coincide with the ens means pattern depictions. Trackable times arent far off.
^^a sample of what the ops are starting to tease
PNA spike and deep west based NAO and TPV roaring underneath could also be too much of a good thing ie cold but dry. But alas, all conjecture at this range and MUCH better than zero HL blocking and a hostile PAC. It isnt a shut the blinds pattern fo sho
But to answer your question, I personally want to see it under 120 hrs....that look verbatim. Agreed tho, that is about as close to an ideal look as we are gonna get on a means at that range.
Obviously my memory isnt what it once was
I do recall LC that year (he was a local philly met at that time) noting repeatedly about some volcanic ash that year which played a role in the atmosphere pattern over the N hemi.
iirc, prior to winter 95-96 there was an eruption of Mt Pinatubo. And mets correlated the harsh Nina winter in part to this same hypothesis this scientist has noted.
Off topic: I really hope the Eagles dont play down to GB. Need a complete effort. Rodgers can still steal a game from a snoozing defense. Dont think that will happen, but this game has trap written all over it imo.
Shame its the OP. All pieces seem to be there. Even have to neg anomalies in the GOM with the pseudo 50/50 in place that isnt going too far with the massive ridge