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Everything posted by NorthShoreWx
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Agree with the other LI locals. This was nice but didn't hold a candle to the one last January 30:
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The warning is primarily for travel. These are the typical conditions where you wonder how 50+ cars managed to pile up in a half inch of snow. It only takes a few moments.
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This has been showing up consistently for a few days with steep lapse rates progged for this afternoon/evening. PW isn't great, but these may make it to the coast. SNOW SQUALL WARNING NWS BINGHAMTON NY 1239 PM EST WED DEC 18 2019 NYC105-PAC069-115-127-181812- /O.CON.KBGM.SQ.W.0018.000000T0000Z-191218T1800Z/ 1239 PM EST WED DEC 18 2019 Sullivan County NY-Lackawanna County PA-Susquehanna County PA-Wayne County PA- ...A SNOW SQUALL WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 100 PM EST FOR NORTHWESTERN SULLIVAN...SOUTHEASTERN SUSQUEHANNA...NORTHEASTERN LACKAWANNA AND CENTRAL WAYNE COUNTIES... At 1239 PM EST, a dangerous snow squall was located along a line extending from near Roscoe to near Pleasant Mount to Lenoxville, moving southeast at 25 mph. HAZARD...Extremely poor visibility in heavy snow and blowing snow. Wind gusts up to 30 mph. SOURCE...Radar and webcams. IMPACT...Dangerous life-threatening travel. This includes the following highway exits... Interstate 86/Route 17 between 94 and 101. Pennsylvania Interstate 81 between 201 and 206. Locations impacted include... Rockland, Carbondale, Archbald, Honesdale, Liberty, Bethel, Damascus, Neversink, Callicoon and Clifford. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... Reduce your speed and turn on headlights! During snow squalls, the visibility may suddenly drop to near zero in whiteout conditions. Wet roadways will quickly freeze. Black ice will cause roads, bridges and overpasses to become slick and dangerous. Slow down and be prepared for sudden loss of traction. LAT...LON 4170 7479 4152 7556 4161 7574 4164 7572 4164 7580 4166 7582 4175 7537 4196 7492 4185 7458 4170 7479
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Dec 16-17, 2019 snow-sleet glaze OBSERVATIONS ONLY
NorthShoreWx replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Down to 32.3 here with light rain. Max this afternoon was 34.1 at 1:21 pm, min was 31.1 at 4:01 am (and earlier). The glaze over a coating of sleet and a little bit of snow last night was not an issue. A little colder and/or not so warm over the preceding weekend and this would have been quite an ice-storm. I hear it was so just a little bit inland. As for hours of freezing rain last night mostly running off, we just didn't get past that equilibrium point for more efficient ice accretion. Between temps near 60 over the weekend and latent heat release from the rain that did freeze, we were right on that edge and surfaces just didn't cool enough. Still I'm impressed at how well the low level cold held in place near the coast.- 204 replies
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Dec 16-17, 2019 snow-sleet glaze OBSERVATIONS ONLY
NorthShoreWx replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
31 with freezing rain here. There is definitely glaze on the trees but not a lot so far. I think more water is running off than freezing. The temperature continues to drop very slowly; it's as low as it's been right now.- 204 replies
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Dec 16-17, 2019 snow-sleet glaze OBSERVATIONS ONLY
NorthShoreWx replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Still a mix here, but mostly sleet again. CC radar view is showing the mix line fairly well tonight: https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/nexrad/index.php?type=OKX-N0C-1-12- 204 replies
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Dec 16-17, 2019 snow-sleet glaze OBSERVATIONS ONLY
NorthShoreWx replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Eastern half of LI is snow:- 204 replies
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Dec 16-17, 2019 snow-sleet glaze OBSERVATIONS ONLY
NorthShoreWx replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
32 snow/sleet mix. Mostly snow.- 204 replies
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Dec 16-17, 2019 snow-sleet glaze OBSERVATIONS ONLY
NorthShoreWx replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Snow/sleet mix. More sleet than snow. 34- 204 replies
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Minor to moderate winter event M-Tue Dec 16-17, 2019
NorthShoreWx replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
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58 here.
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January 2018, February 2017 January 2016 January 2015
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Looks like about 3 inches here with enough to plow in the streets. This would have been an enjoyable little event if only the pavement in Manhattan wasn't wet Still snowing, temperature is 30.
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Snow mixing in Smithtown. 2:30am 37.7
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Not to mention temperatures outside of the city were well down in the teens 2 mornings ago. It's not like today's weather has been the pattern for weeks. In fact daily lows have averaged sub-freezing here since November 1. 11/29/95 was 63 degrees late afternoon and snowing here by midnight. It turned over here before it did in the city. That snow had no problem sticking. This one might not have as much snow, but the table setting seems the same.
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I'm way to young to remember that, but I met my old lover on the street last night. And there wasn't any rain.
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In spots yes. 2/78 was more widespread and a lot windier. I was near the epicenter in 2/13 and we had nearly 4" LE in the snow and sleet that fell (some high profile roof collapses in my town from that). 78 had less water, but gigantic drifts. Roof problems in 78 were more isolated because most of the snow blew off of roofs. Closest thing I have seen to the 78 wind was December 2010 but 78 had higher winds and the winds and snow lasted a lot longer too. Actually, 2010 was somewhat of a dud here (barely made 12" imby), but the winds made it worthwhile. Edit: Anticipating that someone will ask, we had a couple of hours of rain or rain/mix midday on 2/8/13, but it only totaled about a tenth of an inch of liquid. The precip started as snow in the morning, flipped to some light rain and drizzle for a short time, then the snow went bonkers after about 3pm. We did have a period of mix with sleet in the evening, but mostly heavy wet snow transitioning to a drier powdery snow after about 10 pm or so. I'll have to check, but I think I had 3.87"LE for the storm and almost all of it was frozen. I've never seen that much from one storm, even in '78. I suspect that something similar may have happened in February 1961, but not certain. '78 was windblown powder from curtain to curtain. We stayed on the cold side of the coastal front that got parts of the island up near freezing. When that was happening, we were positively ripping overnight with temps in the low - mid 20s.
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I remember the media forecasts (880, 1010) saying "a foot or more" as early as Saturday 2/4/78. I had about 1 snow day before that winter (2/2/76) and we had full school days during all day snowstorms in 2/74 and 2/75 (both were around 9"). It wasn't a district that liked to close and people weren't as touchy feely about driving in snow as they are now (rear wheel drive and all). But they closed school Monday 2/6 in anticipation of the storm. Big time forecast that was actually taken seriously. Then the storm exceeded the high expectations. This after a colossal forecast bust 2 1/2 weeks before when expected overnight rain was actually a 17" blizzard. Good times that winter. 72" season total in NE Nassau County. A friend lived in a split level across the street from the old Sod farms near the high school (now Stillwell Woods) and the drift there was up to the roofline on the tall side of the house. We didn't go back to school until 2/13 (then had regular classes as another 5" fell on Valentines Day). The NSP was closed for days and I saw these giant snow throwers that they brought down from somewhere upstate clearing drifts on the parkway. Here is a photo from one of the industrial parks in Syosset in February 1978:
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Nala Repsak ... I literally remember him saying his name backwards on the air. No idea what the forecast was that day, but I remember the name My guess is he'd get a chuckle out of anyone remembering that.
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Another way of looking at it is ISP got hosed in early March. We got 12" over the first few days of the month which brought us from single digits to 21.7". We had 4.5" in the November 15 snowfall.
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That definitely happens very early in the season (i.e., usually before Thanksgiving) but I don't think so this time. We were snowing at times when other parts of the island that picked up more snow were raining. It would snow, then it would stop for hours. Overnight Sunday was the only rain (most of the qpf that we got). Most of the time during this "long duration" storm, it wasn't doing anything. We just were unlucky with the quantity of LE. For comparison, our storm total LE was 0.49", ISP was 0.84" and Syosset was 0.93" .
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