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July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
NorthShoreWx replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Newsday at the time had a graphic that showed 22" in Long Beach during the February 1978 blizzard. 14" at JFK could be wrong, but is not impossible. -
July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
NorthShoreWx replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
Twas chilly at the end of August. There was a repeat exactly 10 years later. August 1976 also had Hurricane Belle. Just saying. -
Flood Advisory National Weather Service New York NY 157 PM EDT Thu Jul 31 2025 NYC103-311930- /O.NEW.KOKX.FA.Y.0056.250731T1757Z-250731T1930Z/ /00000.N.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/ Suffolk NY- 157 PM EDT Thu Jul 31 2025 ...FLOOD ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 330 PM EDT THIS AFTERNOON... * WHAT...Flooding caused by excessive rainfall is expected. * WHERE...A portion of southeast New York, including the following county, Suffolk. * WHEN...Until 330 PM EDT. * IMPACTS...Minor flooding in low-lying and poor drainage areas. * ADDITIONAL DETAILS... - At 156 PM EDT, Doppler radar indicated heavy rain due to thunderstorms. Minor flooding is ongoing or expected to begin shortly in the advisory area. Between 1 and 1.5 inches of rain have fallen. - Additional rainfall amounts of 1 to possibly 2 inches are expected over the area. This additional rain will result in minor flooding. - Some locations that will experience flooding include... Centereach, Hauppauge, Stony Brook, Port Jefferson, Coram, Smithtown, Mount Sinai, Lake Ronkonkoma, Selden, Kings Park, Setauket, Nesconset, St. James, Miller Place, Lake Grove, Port Jefferson Station, Nissequogue, Head Of The Harbor, Poquott and Belle Terre. - http://www.weather.gov/safety/flood PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... Turn around, don`t drown when encountering flooded roads. Most flood deaths occur in vehicles.
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July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
NorthShoreWx replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
I'm not sure what his side duties may have included, but he was responsible for the horses. -
Very sorry for your loss. Reading this made me sad, but also happy that there are people like your dad in the world.
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July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability
NorthShoreWx replied to wdrag's topic in New York City Metro
We have quite a bit of family history at Newport. If you visit the Mansions, my great grandfather was the coachman for the Kings at Kingscote for about a decade. He had the same name as me. -
Outflow from the storms approaching here from the southwest just blew through here. Probably higher wind than during the storm we had a hour and a half or two hours ago. That one fizzled a little as it approached and was pretty brief but dropped .40" of rain with some thunder in an intense squall.
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Lots of apples and oranges to unpack in that statement, but the discussion seems to be more around the weather generated on the interface between the east side of continents and adjacent oceans. It's about 2500 miles from Labrador to Miami. Its about 2700 miles from Valdivostok to Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon). I don't think the extremes that you are imagining are real (temperature extremes and snowstorms), except for possibly the number of TC's in the northern Pacific (any chance you were adding in TCs from the southern pacific?). The mountains of northern Japan in winter are a special case in a similar sense to the way that the Tug Hill is. There is nothing tiny about the coastline adjacent to either continent.
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We had a little over 3" following heavy rain 4-1-97.
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NWS issued a blizzard warning in their late evening update on 4/5/82. That's not days in advance, but they did forecast a blizzard a half day before the first flakes fell. This crew here would have missed that.
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I did some research into ISP snowfall records years ago and came away with the belief that those datasets are not of equal quality. Perhaps the 1503 day streak is correct but I'm not confident.
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I'm always disappointed in how inaccurate the NESIS storm maps are. Not just for here, but for example, I can show you photos confirming about 4 feet of snow at around 500 feet elevation in Harriman much of it from the late February 2010 storm (you can also cross ref old PNS reports). I think I understand the reason locally to be that they relied on one or two observations to cover central LI, with Setauket-Strongs neck having been one of them until fairly recently. That station didn't always measure even once in 24 hours, plus it is surrounded by water. For Rockland County and eastern Orange, there was probably a low snowfall report (possibly accurate for its location) that was overweighted in developing that map. The maps are useful in approximating a very broad picture of snowfall distribution, but have a lot of the details wrong. I think there is more data and better tools for abstracting the data into visual maps available than these are utilizing.
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18.3" here (approx 50% of average) 10.8" for February (only 0.9" below average) 27 days with at least 1" of snow cover and 46 days with at least a trace. No records, but enough presence to remember what snow looks like. It's all gone now except for sheltered areas and piles.
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Once again the AI is wrong. It contradicts itself right in that screenshot. I assume you don't like to read past the top line. You shouldn't take shortcuts to prove dubious points. That's what politicians are for. I believe there was a -16 in the 1800s
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What's 100 years to an AI?
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I feel the need to add to the controversy by stating that I think this winter would have been better if there was more snow. In other news, when was the last post about future weather?
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They are probably happier watching Al Roker than reading here.
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I don't have to. I'll decide when we get there. Perception is perception.
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I lived it too. It wasn't that cold. People have different perceptions; that isn't going to change. I am not in agreement with banning speech in this thread (e.g., 'it wasnt cold compared to a couple of decades ago') to back up someone's perception. The depth of emotion is surprising.