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And yet we had others in our own subforum talking about how the warm waters in the NW Atlantic would be a problem for us......look,it boils down to this....I'd buy it more if we missed snow by 50 miles....how can you invoke luck when there was no significant snow within 100 miles of the region in any direction? Unless you're talking about well inland which is dramatically favored in December,,,, the stats prove that.
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No but understand they are talking about their region, not ours. I also strenuously object to the word "luck"-- there is no such thing as "luck"-- everything is cause and effect. We've already talked about how the type of block we had wasn't ideal, it wasn't what we had in 2010....and going by the climo here, it really doesn't snow much in December. You live in a different climo zone, so results would be different for you than for what they are here.
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So that abnormally warm area of water in the NW Atlantic had nothing to do with it? I'm going by the record of December on the south shore of Long Island and it's pretty ugly-- unless you have a historic pattern like December 2009, 2010...you really don't get much snow here in December. If that pattern had occurred later in the winter, as in Mid to late January or February I'd buy it-- but December isn't a winter weather month here anymore.
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Yeah and I didn't even know this happened until someone told me I should look it up. From 1996 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weyauwega,_Wisconsin,_derailment The Weyauwega derailment was a railroad accident that occurred in Weyauwega, Wisconsin, United States, in the early morning hours of March 4, 1996. The derailed train was carrying a large quantity of hazardous material, which immediately caught fire. The fire, which involved the train cars and an adjacent feed mill, burned for more than two weeks after the actual derailment, resulting in the emergency evacuation of 2,300 people for 18 days, including the entire city of Weyauwega, with about 1,700 evacuees. Derailment and fire[edit] At approximately 5:49 am, an 81-car Wisconsin Central train traveling from Stevens Point, Wisconsin, to Neenah, Wisconsin, approached the city of Weyauwega at 48.3 miles per hour (77.7 km/h), traveling on a downward grade. The locomotives and the first 16 cars of the train passed a switch without incident, after which the seventeenth through fifty-third cars behind them derailed at the location of the switch, at 5:49:32 AM. A subsequent NTSB investigation found the cause of the derailment to be a broken rail within the switch that was the result of an undetected bolt hole fracture.[1] The derailed cars included seven tank cars of liquefied petroleum gas (LPG), seven tank cars of propane and two tank cars of sodium hydroxide. The derailment ruptured three of the tank cars, spilling both LPG and propane, which immediately ignited. The conductor of the train cut the train after the first nine cars, and proceeded onward 1.5 miles (2.4 km). When the local fire crew arrived on the scene five minutes after the derailment, fireballs were exploding up to 300 feet (90 m) high that were visible for nearly 13 miles (21 km). Fire spread to a nearby feed mill and storage building that were both difficult to access by the fire crew because the derailed train was blocking the grade crossing. High tension power lines were also torn down by the derailment, which caused secondary electrical fires. In total, seven of the tank cars of LPG and propane leaked, and the two sodium hydroxide tank cars leaked their contents. Electricity and natural gas service to 25% of the city of Weyauwega was disrupted, and city water services had to be shut off because of a rupture in a water main.
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Yeah definitely not luck lol
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Trust me it's not luck-- 10 out of the last 35 winters have had less than 10" of snow here.
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Yes like thinking we can beat nature....you can't beat something that you are a part of, you only end up screwing yourself.
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It's definitely not luck-- I've lived here long enough to know it was a bad pattern for snow for among many reasons-- the ocean waters were simply too warm. You can look at the stats to see how poorly the coast does in December with snow. People use luck as an excuse when they dont understand-- there was no luck involved down here.
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Don I was just thinking of you! What say you-- will the January-February couplet this year be the warmest such couplet on record?
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01/02 was my GOAT but specifically talking about January it's definitely historic and it looks like the January-February couplet will be historic too-- what are supposed to be the two coldest months of the year will probably have their warmest two month average on record.
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They have a different point of view because of where they live....it's a lot more difficult to get snow here in December than it is there. Historically the coast around here rarely ever sees good snow in December. It's a matter of the local climate....this pattern was much better for them than it was for us.
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This is most definitely still historic because we have the warmest January on record and a bunch of other warm records to go along with it.
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we don't define seasons by snowfall though we define them by temperatures and the warmth this year has been more extreme and consistent than 97-98 2000-01 was also a much colder winter than this year's, there really is no comparison.
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It was a true failure.... bad luck would be like December 1989....it really wasn't that cold in December either, if you go up against the longterm average it was milder than normal.
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Things could change next week, Don? All I've been seeing is temps in the 50s lol
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we have that problem with planes too I'm using freeware called Sequator that removes this stuff from pictures while stacking using the "best pixels" feature. It still looks ugly in the skies but at least it can easily be removed from images.
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When those regulations got rolled back that rail company saved 2 billion dollars-- hopefully they lose more than that in lawsuits.
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with all the toxic chemical spills going on, humanity is doing a lot of things wrong on this planet. Instead of looking for intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, we need to wonder whether it even exists on earth. You mentioned Arizona, there is yet another toxic cloud over I-10 there
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with all the toxic chemical spills going on, humanity is doing a lot of things wrong on this planet. Instead of looking for intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, we need to wonder whether it even exists on earth.
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I was hoping no one would win the Super Bowl.....
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Chris, has NYC had 10 out of the last 35 seasons with less than 10" of snowfall like JFK has had?
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who was more sad at the lack of snow lol
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The Dakotas are right up there too
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It goes with my intuition that 2017-18 was colder and snowier beforehand so the SSW just brought back the cold snowy pattern that had already happened earlier that winter. And if that's the case, the only thing the SSW will do is make it a little colder, but also drier lol
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Thanks, 2013-14 was very similar to 1993-94 which is what I thought. Had some amazing winters in the 2010s (40"+) but none of those matched 1995-96, 2002-03 or 1960-61, which were our three historic winters.
