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was the state low at an official airport measuring station? How close was the low at MJX to 21? Thanks! Looking for FOK data too, usually FOK and MJX and MVY compete for the lowest temps on radiational cooling nights

the one big blizzard component is more common it also means a warmer winter, but we have those anyway

thats going to melt quickly, could be some major spring flooding in those parts

That was very memorable, the only time I've seen snow here in May was in 2020. So we went from record cold to early heat to latest snowfall to historic heat (in July 1977 we had our hottest week on record)-- that's MY kind of weather! And of course the winter after that was historic also.

I do too, I just hope I don't get lost up there looking for the total solar eclipse. Just like tourists come down here and get lost looking up at skyscrapers, I can totally see myself getting into an accident trying to move around while looking up at the sun lol.

It's the anniversary of the April 9-10, 1996 snowstorm forecast was for 6-12 inches in NYC which was a bust for the city, but we did get 4-5 inches here near JFK with over a foot to 16 inches in eastern Long Island. Well remembered for the snowy Yankee stadium opening day which Andy Pettitte pitched with snow accumulating on his cap lol. The snow seemed to get heavier throughout the game.

The thing was though, it wasn't even a really good winter for us, it was just an average winter so the area of heaviest snows must've been very narrow. We didn't get any huge 20"+ coastals like we get now. La Ninas after El Ninos seem to be very good for that.

EWR: 26 (1977)NYC: 25 (1977)LGA: 26 (1977) This must have been the last of the cold as 90 was hit later in April.

Hopefully NYC hits 90 before the foliage comes in and ruins it.

Might actually have another one tonight, forecast is for 30s here

I saw, weird it's on the edge, I might need to go a little further north. Also, I didn't know Syracuse was that far north, I thought it was in Central NYS =\

it crashed my computer lol, I need to not have 140+ tabs open (I forgot the exact number lol)

it was a "just miss" winter for us, I wonder why?

Don, although it's not going to happen this year, I always consider 4/20 the end of measurable snowfall season because that's the latest we've had that (in 1983). Three measurable snowfalls this late include 4/10/1996 (4-5 inches), 4/16/2014 (0.5-1 inch), 4/20/1983 (1.5-2 inches)

stupid south east ridge is sending the path of totality to our far north, you can never win with that thing!

This map is off though, you don't have to be that far north to get into totality, you just need to get to Syracuse. I saw TWC posting the same map.

Chris do you think that el nino caused such a startling effect that the PDO cycles got dramatically shorter?

This must have been when we had that April 1990 snowstorm! And in 1991 this was the first of a record number 0f 90 degree days that was later tied in 1993! It's unusual to see NYC as the only official local area reporting station hit 90 degrees! 1990 - Twenty-two cities reported record low temperatures for the date as readings dipped into the 20s and 30s across much of the eastern U.S. Freezing temperatures severely damaged peach and apple orchards in West Virginia, where prolonged mild weather since January had caused an early blooming of spring vegetation. State and Federal agencies estimated a 50 percent loss in production for peaches and "Delicious Red Apples". (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

right rather than using "luck" to explain it, it's interesting how these patterns run in cycles.

these things run in cycles, we had a similar sequence in the 80s and early 90s

Some say that the sst in the Atlantic are what kept this past winter from producing. Either way, the pacific is far more influential in our weather than the atlantic, so a -nao wont do anything if the pacific is horrible.

Interesting-- so 1957-58 was the trigger that gave us the great winters in the 60s? (1959-60 tail end, 1960-61, 1963-64, 1966-67, etc.)

I'd like to see this pattern continue through the summer

It wasn't supposed to be sunny today....we'll see the sun again on Sunday.

It's interesting they are going to be colder than we are.