LibertyBell

what model are they going with? I thought all of them show snow now?

why isn't it showing much east of the city-- the map doesn't go out far enough in time to cover long island?

It would be interesting to see how much snow we got here in 1717 lol

it switches back and forth. He's right about marginal though. You need a true arctic airmass to get a big snowstorm in March.

Cant be 81-82, they are talking about 82-83 right? 81-82 was extremely cold and we had a three day snowstorm in January (the one which caused a jet to crash into the icy Potomac) and a historic blizzard in April. We also hit 0 in January.

18-19 was snowy in March? I don't remember that

One of the worst offenders was the winter of 09-10....remember the numbers that came in that winter for snowfall data at Central Park? All the numbers were rounded to the nearest inch or half inch....10.0, 8.0, 10.5, it was obvious to see they were estimates, and estimates of big snowstorms are the worst. They didn't just undermeasure, they didn't measure at all, they estimated. Which I'm okay with if it's an under 1 " coating, but not for those big events. Those storms were actually more like 12 inches, 15 inches, etc. The one storm they did measure right was at the end of February, 20.9", at least they got that one right.....the other ones that season were both undermeasured and estimated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_25–27,_2010_North_American_blizzard#:~:text=In New York City%2C 20.9,dangerous conditions on the streets. In New York City, 20.9 inches (53 cm) fell in Central Park, mixed with slushy accumulation due to above-freezing temperatures during the day. Falling tree branches due to the heavy wet snow and strong winds resulted in one casualty (Elmaz Qyra) in Central Park[20] and created dangerous conditions on the streets. The New York City Sanitation Department deployed 1600 snow plow and 365 salt spraying trucks to keep traffic flowing smoothly on the highways and city streets of the five boroughs. New York City experienced its 5th largest snowstorm on record, 4th at the time.[21] This, combined with a winter storm earlier in the month resulted in February 2010 becoming the snowiest month on record in New York City.[22] Several private schools and institutions cancelled classes on Friday, February 26, due to the storm. City mayor Michael Bloomberg originally decided to keep the public schools running on Friday, but acquiesced later when the weather condition worsened overnight.[23] New York City area's three major airports canceled more than 1,000 flights. About 3,000 usually leave the airports daily.[24] New Jersey Transit canceled buses into New York City. Rail service in New Jersey and Long Island was suspended or delayed.[24] On February 27, ice from an upper floor of the Sony Building crashed through the building's atrium glass ceiling, injuring at least 15 people attending a Purim party.

I'd say it was probably 0.3 inches....I can tell you what happened because it happened here too. I woke up at 2 am saw that it had just started snowing....got heavier around 2:20. I stayed up until 3:15 or so and it was still snowing fairly hard and I saw a solid coating on rooftops and cartops but nowhere else. I saw the radar, okay it's going to snow for at least 2 more hours let me take a nap and wake up to measure it at 5 am. I woke up at 5 am and the snow was already ending and at least half of what fell had already disappeared...... That 0.3" is an estimate of mine of what the maximum accumulation probably was because when I woke up at 5 am it was mostly gone.

I've got grass and bushes and trees here too and it wasn't accumulating on them either, it was only accumulating on cartops and rooftops lol. They do undermeasure and annoyingly so, in this case that 0.1" should have been more like 0.3" It's the big events that they undermeasure that I find to be the most annoying. I posted this in the upstate thread because of what GravityLover said: Presenting my all new Beaufort Scale of Snowfall Coatings! He's right though, these are little insignificant events. I'd rather get zero snow or a foot plus, not these piddly little half inch or inch or even 2 inch numbers. Saw enough of these in the 80s to last me my whole life. Now I just rank them in terms of coatings. Last night's was less than February's 28ths coating and less than late December's coating, but more than January's coating. So it's going down as 0.3" I've developed a Beaufort scale for coatings now, in terms of where the snow accumulates and what I can still see through the coating lol. car tops and roof tops = quarter of an inch accumulates on grass, trees and bushes but you can still see the grass poking through = half an inch unpaved surfaces are solidly covered but nothing on the streets, sidewalks or driveways = 1-1.5 inch roads covered.... 2 inches plus....now I start to measure. This one is going down as 0.3 inch based on the above scale.

He's right though, these are little insignificant events. I'd rather get zero snow or a foot plus, not these piddly little half inch or inch or even 2 inch numbers. Saw enough of these in the 80s to last me my whole life. Now I just rank them in terms of coatings. Last night's was less than February's 28ths coating and less than late December's coating, but more than January's coating. So it's going down as 0.3" I've developed a Beaufort scale for coatings now, in terms of where the snow accumulates and what I can still see through the coating lol. car tops and roof tops = quarter of an inch accumulates on grass, trees and bushes but you can still see the grass poking through = half an inch unpaved surfaces are solidly covered but nothing on the streets, sidewalks or driveways = 1-1.5 inch roads covered.... 2 inches plus....now I start to measure. This one is going down as 0.3 inch based on the above scale.

We do better than you guys do in strong el ninos. And you're all in the same snowhole dude. The number at Central Park was a little underdone but not by much, looking at the other Nassau County numbers 0.3" was a good number. That 0.1" should probably have been 0.3" too. A one inch snowfall is meaningless to me, I'd rather have a foot plus or nothing at all.

You're right, not even anything in the grass or trees here, just roof tops and car tops.

honestly, with temps in the 50s and me with my fans running yesterday, there was no chance of getting much accumulation in the city. I did actually turn my heat off yesterday and had the fans running, it was warm. 0.3" here and that's probably what Manhattan had also, so a little undermeasured, but not a huge deal. I live for the big events, these little paltry events don't mean anything.

didn't even coat the trees or bushes here or even the grass, just roof tops and car tops.

You will always be warm dude, you live on concrete. Marginal/light events dont do well on concrete this time of year.

it actually came down really hard between like 2:30 am and 5 am but wasn't accumulating on anything but roof tops and car tops. I also heard the sound of sleet pinging for the first hour or so along with snow (between 2 am and 3 am). It finally got down to 32 at 5 am but the snow was slowing down by then.

lol no, the city generates a lot of heat.

0.1" for Central Park, I wonder what the airports got? Should be around 0.3"

wow you didn't get anything in late February? all of our accumulations have been coatings this season, nothing has stuck to the roads or driveways.

It didn't start to snow here until after 2 am....and never accumulated on the roads or driveways. More of that car topper roof topping stuff. Every snowfall this season has been a coating, this ranks behind the late February and late December coatings but ahead of the January coating.

Bleh it wasn't much more than that here. 0.3 It didn't start snowing here until after 2 am more like 2:20

These are all coatings lol. I rank this behind the February 28th coating and even behind the December coating, but ahead of the January coating. So less than half an inch but more than 0.2. Going with 0.3

Yes but that changed to rain. For a double digit storm that was all snow after February you have to go quite a ways back.

Yes and the funny thing is Manhattan should have had more than Brooklyn or most of Long Island since Manhattan changed from rain to snow first. This was a rainer in Boston and the high snowfall totals did not make it to eastern Long Island. The north shore of western Suffolk County had 38" though and Northern Queens had 36" so I would expect Manhattan also had over 30" Coney Island area had 26" so it was definitely more than that.

I love that quantum particles analogy, Don! These are virtual particles, just like these simulated snowstorms are lol.