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December 2025 regional war/obs/disco thread
40/70 Benchmark replied to Torch Tiger's topic in New England
It was still dark, but seemed like it was just a dusting once I hit 128. -
Rub it in, haha
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Doesn’t look like there is much of anything about 8 miles to your south on satellite.
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Courtesy of the MA forum. The MA beating us to the first accumulation would be fitting in the current cutter/suppressed period we are in.
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25 here and a huge frost.
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December 2025 regional war/obs/disco thread
40/70 Benchmark replied to Torch Tiger's topic in New England
Not all of it, but there will be some melting. I wasn't implying it would all melt. The hills are a different story. -
NAM is still not enthused at all about tomorrow night.
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5.5" final 13.1°.
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The Return of the 12/5 Snowstorm
SomeguyfromTakomaPark replied to SnowenOutThere's topic in Mid Atlantic
Looking at a blend of GFS, Euro, NAM, CMC, Euro AI, ICON you get temps like 26-31 for DC metro area. That is a great sign IMO. We do best when we're not waiting for dynamic cooling. I like a good entrenched cold air mass. -
For once, the trend is our friend. But when you think about it, it's looking like a typical north trend. Hopefully, 48hrs isn't enough time for too much. Of course, now that I said that, it'll shift south at 12z!
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Final update from Rainthuen...2.6 inches of snow and sleet....for the most part snow growth was terrible prior to mixing setting in....for a reference point think Connor Wong's batting average last season...
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@NorthShoreWx, and anyone else with knowledge, I need a ruling here. The snow changed to sleet, I measured 3.1" at that point, and then eventually a bit of freezing drizzle before stopping around Happy Hour when I cleared my board. Then in the evening I got some back edge snow showers and I had .1 on the board this morning. I believe that I count that, which would bring storm total to 3.2". Do you agree?
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Northern Hemi snow has also been running low for most of the cold season, record low at times. This can shift quickly. Currently Eurasia is very low, while N America is above average with recent snow advance.
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I am glad that my early October indicator pointing to a more -PNA worked out again this year. Was expecting a decline in the PNA from the record levels last year. But we always have to wait until December in order to get the specific value. This is why Canada into the Northern Tier are so much colder than last December.
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2008/2009 was referenced as a possible analog for this year. However I do mot recall the PNA state for that season.
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For some reason I am enthused seeing the euro. I adopted a new stance to wait until inside 84 hours vice 384hrs for enthusiasm ops.
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No wind, powdery snow. Easy pessy! 6.75"
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Just about an inch here, total.
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6.25” total here. It was nice not to get any sleet or rain for once.
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First 20s of the season here 29 for the low
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That smaller part is a representative subset of the wider Atlantic part of the Arctic which is also at record lows for the date. You can see record daily lows extending over to Svalbard on the Atlantic side of the Arctic. Due to geography and season, the September records have been more Pacific focused like in September 2012. So the record lows on the Atlantic side caused the entire Arctic to have a record low Jaxa extent on December 2nd. The extent is the lowest on record for the date at -425K below the previous record set in 2016. Winter records are usually more on the Atlantic side over the years since it’s easier to have open water extending into the Barents and Kara seas due to Atlantification of the Arctic. There is a much narrower opening to the Arctic near Alaska so it’s easier for the area north of Alaska to freeze over by this time of year. Wider Arctic low matches regional lows across the Arctic.
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Finally made it to 32 this morning for the first time this season at my station.
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TWC mentioned a few records can fall tomorrow morning w/r/t record lows. Bridgeport is one location. 17 is the current record there. Something to watch.
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Another inch fell last night, so a total of about 3" here in Lowell. What remains on the ground is only about 2", but that first inch is probably half water. I know Ray think's it's going to disappear, and the top inch of fluff certainly will, but i's not going to in areas to the north and west of me. We just both got screwed being less than 10 miles from the goods and you can sense it in the posts. I remember making a post years ago about drawing a map of New England of where a snow "pack" usually builds. I don't believe Lowell nor Methuen is in that area, but you go just west side of Nashua (10 miles to my NW) and I believe you're in the southeast edge of it. It kinds goes where snowmobile trails exist. Maybe I've gotten a little soft/less worrysome about these shitty events because I spend about 1/2 the time at my cabin, and this time of year, it's all about pack building. We might get an inland cutter that drops 2" of rain, but a good majority of that ends up building the pack. Sure, sometimes there's bare ground on Christmas, but that might be 10% of the time. Go 10 miles to my N up there and you're in elevated land and it's probably closer to 1% of the time. That post about storm anxiety made me laugh though. I never really get true anxiety, but a lot of people do including my wife, holy fu@#, I just get angry, lol. They may have been referring to the "milk and eggs" people, which I'm certain exist, but I think anyone posting here has gone through met anxiety. I could name names, but I think we all know who we are, lol. I certainly did/do, and that probably has a lot to do why I built my cabin 100 miles north of here. My friends and fam are like "We're so glad you built this place for us to come and enjoy" and I just chuckle inside to myself. I packed my shit and was ready to leave last night around 8 to get some runs in, but I have a job to do around here, and I hope the snow does melt a little because it actually involves a drone and the top inch melting away.
