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There’s this weird pendulum in here where one group tries to push “end of winter”, “back broken”, etc etc…and then another group that pushes deep winter until 4/1. Let’s just call it what it is…moderation on temps (Second half of February does this most years) but 90% of this forum only cares about snow…so what about snow? Well, next week maybe a light event mid-week and then the weekend remains in limbo. If model performance since late January is any indication, I wouldn’t feel comfortable about saying anything beyond D5-6 right now. It’s been really bad consistency.

People hate the thought of melting etc, especially when there is pack. I get it, but it is what it is.

He’s talking about the torch twins

Yeah and it’s been centered right where most of us like our winter…around the solar and climo min. So if March torches it’s just a big whatever.

Ha. you know ... I've often though that the 21s date-designation for seasonal demarcation as a being humanity bullshit anyway. According to a mash up history lesson by NOAA and the Royal Met Society, The 21st is often recognized as a seasonal change date because it aligns closely with the astronomical events of the solstices and equinoxes, which are determined by Earth's position relative to the Sun. Specifically, the March equinox, marking the start of spring in the Northern Hemisphere, typically occurs around March 20 or 21, while the September equinox marks the beginning of autumn around September 22 or 23. That bold is bullshit. Why? Because it doesn't account for the solar increasing irradiance that takes place before March 21. Nor does it account for the solar irradiance lost prior to the September 21. Both times in which there are notable increase vs decrease ( respectively) in the mean temperature (ie, seasonality), which are a direct response to the gain vs dimming caused by Earth's position relative to the Sun. Hello? So, I give these sources ( and the AI that did the mashing ...) a bit of a pass on this because they are after all having to describe this stuff to idiocracy - different discussion. However, in reality, winter should end, and spring should begin, on the date that the solar min ends. Spring ends, summer begins on the date the solar max begins. Summer should end and autumn begins when the max ends and -transition solar season starts... And on and so on throughout the calendar year. Nov 8 to ~ Feb 9 is winter. Feb 9 to ~ May 7th is spring. May 7 to ~ Aug 10th is summer. Aug 10 to ~ Nov 8 is autumn. That is more realistic and obeys/observes the physical constraints native to the celestial mechanics of our solar system.

Yup..great insulator for sure.

https://www.mcall.com/2026/02/07/giant-chip-split-high-winds-inside-scoop-coopersburg/

Yep, I am so ready to put this winter in the books. Looking forward to some nice warm temps.

Even in all rain events they’re low. Especially if wind is involved. At first I thought it was coincidence, but in the events where I’ve compared around, they are low when wind is involved. I’m sure when snow is involved it’s worse.

I still can’t believe my soil 8” down has stayed above freezing this whole winter. Deep pack ftw. Snow cover since 12/2.

march

Just a wee bit dry lol.

100% agree. I mean it’s been super solid. If we can pick up 2-3 more systems that snow on us, this goes into a great winter for sure. 50” season climo gets, I’m at 42” in early Feb…with the deep consistent cold it’s been a good ol fashioned winter imo.

We are in the thick of it. 7F and my auto fill home heating oil company let my tank run dry. The joys of home ownership. Sitting at 61F in the living room. Emergency oil fill on the way. Any of you guys ever bleed a furnace oil line? Ensembles signaling some wintry weather 15th then again 20th with another AO plunge and more winter for at least the remainder of Feb, tho weeklies and cfs stuff suggest March will be quite the ride.

When is our next storm threat?

Coldest in years in New England? We’ve done colder than this at most sites multiple times in the past few weeks. But the point is that it’s a step up compared to where we’ve been and climo is going to make it difficult to reach the deepest winter cold again. I don’t think anyone is treating that like a “hot take”…just stating it for what it is. I don’t understand the defensiveness from some. BDL has averaged 13 days of 40+ in Feb during the 2000s. It’s not like it’s difficult to tickle 40s after mid month when the pattern relaxes.

ORH used to have that problem. Not as much these days but check out some of their old reports from the 2000s and 2010s. Some of the storms are like 50 to 1 ratios.

Just glad it’s uphill from here on the temps. Today will still be bitterly cold but by midweek we’ll start having real snowmelt and conditions actually suitable for being outside.

Anybody following this Savannah Guthrie mom kidnapping? This is fucked.

3 degrees here last night.

Yup. And then some, for sure.

I’m trying to teach Kevin.

3.6°F this morning, coldest of the season here was on the 31st of Jan at 3.5°F NYC hit 3°F as well, though the daily record low is -7°F set in 1934. I can only wonder what temps were like around the region at that time

For Logan? I’ve mentioned this before, but their gauge is always off. Dendrite mentioned that it shouldn’t be based on the type, but they are always low. Always.

Kid Rock in the house!