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And not just snow storms. It's any storm.

when you see something like this - it shows the models still haven't figured out how to handle this situation along with the NAM showing little or nothing . Need to get closer to get a better idea............

Gfs went south and euro went north and weak. Goodnight

Gfs went south and euro went north Goodnight

As I said, a year ago at this time the NOAA weeks 3-4 maps were quite cold looking (strongest cold signal in SE quadrant on record since this product started being issued) and they obviously verified quite well (although to be fair these aren’t actually forecasts): OTOH, 4 years ago at this time (when many E US posters’ tones on the wx boards were similarly gloomy) they were similarly mild looking to yesterday’s for much of the E US, which turned out to be “wrong”:

Agree. I have no idea what the hell he’s talking about…but whatever.

It’s ok-you don’t have to send one to me…

Got 2.5” on Sunday…I’m hoping for 1,5” more this go around. Just going by what that model showed. And I didn’t wear a vest pal?

The miracle White Christmas in 1998. Temperatures really torched that month, with 2 days in the 70s in the first week, and temps in the mid-60s as late as the morning of the 22nd. Then, temperatures fell throughout the day, leading to the snowstorm on December 23-24, 1998.

You get 4", and I'll send everyone on this forum a Xmas card with me wearing nothing but one of your skin tight vests with a turtle neck.

They’re still called Weeklies because that is based on their own extended maps being for one week at a time, not based on their release frequency. Today’s Euro Weeklies run/extended EPS mean was the warmest run yet this season for the E US overall. Today’s extended GEFS doesn’t look much better for the E US its entire run if you prefer cold (like I do). But obviously I’m hopeful they will bust badly! A year ago at this time, they were cold for the E US and NOAA’s weeks 3-4 products were about the coldest on record for the SE US. I was posting a lot about those outlooks as well as the cold Weeklies and was very excited. What a difference a year makes! They often have a decent clue as to the general upcoming pattern. But not always. So, we’ll see.

Thanks Steve…I’ll take my 4”.

lol jsut saw. I’ll sell that.

The inverted dong for you and I. Beware.

Can you post bro.

WTF are you talking about Bob? This is a f’n weather forum. I want to talk about weather. If T Blizz wants to keep being a negative fool…I have no time for that. If it sucks, fine. But if there are some positives, before verification, then it needs to be pointed out. I don’t come here for mental health…if you do, and he does, I’m sorry.

ICON looks pretty good up here.

In RRFS we trust

The most concerning thing to me is the lack of region-wide snowstorms (not this nickel and dime, hit or miss stuff). It’s become a thing.

Icon went from a solid advisory at 12z to flakes in the air at 00z

Today was another nice day for a walk here! Mid to low 60s, sunshine, a light breeze, and dewpoints in the 40s. Due largely to the great walking wx, I’ve taken walks every day since Nov 29th per my phone’s fitness ap. According to it over the last 10 years, I’ve never taken anywhere near that many days in a row of walks! Usually something (wx or other) gets in the way at least once a week.

0z GFS keeps even the LSV in the game for the chance of a little snow on Tuesday.

The changes from 12z to 00z on gfs pretty much sums up the last 5+ years here. We get one good run and then it crumbles until verification