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2026-2027 Super El Nino
40/70 Benchmark replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Never any guarantees with an El Niño that powerful, but we can all agree that we'll need some negative NAO to have an appreciable shot. -
2026-2027 Super El Nino
bluewave replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Even a -NAO -AO during a super El Niño can be warm with very little snow like we saw in January 1998. The issue is how strong the El Niño ridge was in the Great Lakes into the Northeast to the south of the block over Greenland. Also note that the forcing moving to the east of the Dateline didn’t help since it was so strong. -
2026-2027 Super El Nino
40/70 Benchmark replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
I would welcome this, regardless of how we fare this coming winter. -
2026-2027 Super El Nino
40/70 Benchmark replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Yea, that's more of a traditional, canonical-intense El Niño response, more in line with 1997. NAO will be crucial to salvaging a winter. Probably cooler than 2023 in the NE in the absence of that competing MC element. -
2026-2027 Super El Nino
snowman19 replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Nice write up. Been saying it, but in addition to the east-based super Nino, +IOD, maybe slightly +PDO and -AMO, the Copernicus suite is showing the 30C isotherm getting pushed all the way to 140W, which would be the first time it history, the previous record being 155W. If that actually happens, it would effectively end the “split forcing” that we saw in 2015-16 and 2023-34. IMO, given these basically non stop major WWBs and DWKWs since April, which look to continue, that entire equatorial WPAC/Indo warm pool gets sloshed/shunted east (finally) -
I'm forecasting 1" with locally higher amounts along I-78 on northward at the moment. We'll watch for subtle shifts. At a minimum I think 1/2" - 1" looks pretty solid between the I-78 - I-90 corridor. With locally higher amounts. I'll be disappointed with anything under 1". Sunny parts of the lawn not reached by sprinklers are taking it on the chin. Looking terrible. If this keeps up much longer I'm worried NJ will issue mandatory restrictions and start banning all but essential irrigation as we head through July.
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2026-2027 Super El Nino
BlizzardWx replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
And it's worth noting it's not just really warm vs less warm. ECMWF seasonal shows genuine cool anomalies near the MC as part of that +IOD along with the eastward leaning nino. I think if this roughly happens it really would kill the split forcing Bluewave is always talking about. Even further north the ECMWF seasonal is mostly breaking down the warm water in the west Pacific with what is a neutral to maybe slight +PDO look. This would be a genuine change from the last decade. And that's to say nothing of what still looks to be a marginally negative AMO. -
Central PA Summer 2026 Discussion/Obs Thread
Voyager replied to Voyager's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
The downside appears that those triggers are going to be all the things I like. Beef, sausage, spicy foods, etc. -
ORH is very warm so far. +4.6F for the month. That number should tickle down a bit before any good warmth kicks in.
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12z Euro still looks good -- an inch to inch and a half for most of the area. GFS misses to the south with the heavier rain while RGEM misses to the north. Who knows at this point, but even the areas that miss the heavier rain should still get some.
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Yeah I think we warm up a bit late month and early July but then ridge retros west and we’ll cool off a bit. But cool in July hopefully means summer. Nino is flexing.
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Great lineup with spoon and geese. Almost went.
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Possibly a split situation? - A main area into NY state and another smaller area into south central PA into central NJ, with bupkis in between. Both maps are suggestive, and it's happened plenty of times before.
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Someone doesnt know how to read i guess.. that wasnt what i thought at all
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Good luck
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Another gorgeous day. Winds blowing as usual. Hope it don't mess up the airshow today at Greenwood Lake Airport.
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Central PA Summer 2026 Discussion/Obs Thread
mahantango#1 replied to Voyager's topic in Upstate New York/Pennsylvania
Your gonna awaken the "Blizz" with such dreadful language. Let us get through summer first. -
Man over the past 2-3 days it seems like everyone's grass just gave up the ghost and is burned to a crisp. Ground is like concrete and cracking everywhere too.
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Some people seem to enjoy making "donations" to their power supplier...
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Lots umbrellas flying at the beach today. Other then the wind it’s a 10/10 beach day. .
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Ever seen Whiskey Treaty Roadshow?
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2026-2027 Super El Nino
GaWx replied to Stormchaserchuck1's topic in Weather Forecasting and Discussion
Euro progging peak of impressive +1.4 Oct, which would beat 11/1997 record of +1.3! However, avg IOD has been rising with CC and thus in theory would need to be adjusted down to be comparable and would be < the +1.3 of ‘97. Otherwise, even the adjusted IOD prog could very well be 2nd strongest on record! IOD data back to 1870, which shows the ‘97 record and longterm rise: https://psl.noaa.gov/gcos_wgsp/Timeseries/Data/dmi.had.long.data -
The thing about a strong El Nino winter is that expectations are always high but reality can sometimes be a disappointment. 72-73 at +2.00 only gave Augusta County 3.0" of snow. 86-87 at +1.60 gave Augusta 52" of snow. 91-92 at +2.30 only gave Augusta 3.3" of snow. 09 - 10 at +1.50 average gave Augusta 63" of snow. The thing about 09-10 is that both the NAO at -2.00 and the AO at -3.50 were strongly negative. I think that was important.
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Fantastic weather for the Green River Festival. Usually we get downpours or blazing heat. War and Treaty and Charley Crockett were killer last night. Kurt Vile, Spoon, Lucius, Geese and so much more coming up the next two days!
