the_other_guy Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 15 minutes ago, SACRUS said: Sep Dep's Through Sep 26th EWR: +1.3 NYC: +0.6 JFK: 0 even LGA" -.05 Newark Airport…the warm cesspool of cement 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonymm Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, forkyfork said: it's so hard to get a normal down that lasts more than a month Yup even with 91-20 normals. I don't even understand how anyone can deny the reality at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Several stations had a warmer departure than Newark did this month. HVN…+2.2 PHL….+2.1 FWN….+2.0 ISP…….+1.7 SMQ…..+1.4 MPO….+1.4 EWR…..+1.3 HPN…..+1.1 TTN…..+0.6 POU…..+0.5 NYC……+0.3 JFK……..0.0 LGA…….-0.4 BDR…….-0.5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, bluewave said: Several stations had a warmer departure than Newark did this month. HVN…+2.2 PHL….+2.1 FWN….+2.0 ISP…….+1.7 SMQ…..+1.4 MPO….+1.4 EWR…..+1.3 HPN…..+1.1 TTN…..+0.6 POU…..+0.5 NYC……+0.3 JFK……..0.0 LGA…….-0.4 BDR…….-0.5 Most of us finished neutral, inland it was warmer. ISP too for some reason as well as HVN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 29 minutes ago, anthonymm said: Yup even with 91-20 normals. I don't even understand how anyone can deny the reality at this point. Most people that aren't low IQ have moved on from the argument that we aren't warming and have now embraced the "the cause is anything and everything BUT anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions" defense. Sadly there is a HUGE portion of the population that also thinks that the USA is the sole party responsible for fixing climate change when we account for only 10% of global emissions. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 28 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Most of us finished neutral, inland it was warmer. ISP too for some reason as well as HVN. Several stations had top 10 warmest September temperatures so far without that high of a departure since the new climate normals are so warm. Even the -0.4 at LGA is still the 13th warmest September temperature so far. 70° Septembers have become much more common than they used to be. Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2015 70.9 0 2 2005 70.2 0 3 2018 69.8 0 4 2021 69.6 0 - 1980 69.6 0 5 2025 69.3 4 6 2017 69.0 0 - 2011 69.0 0 7 2016 68.9 0 8 2023 68.6 0 - 1998 68.6 0 9 2010 68.3 0 10 2022 68.2 0 Time Series Summary for NEW HAVEN TWEED AP, CT - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2000 75.0 26 2 1961 70.2 0 3 2021 70.1 0 4 2018 69.4 0 5 2023 69.2 0 6 2015 69.1 0 - 2011 69.1 0 7 2025 68.9 4 - 2010 68.9 0 8 2022 68.7 0 9 1971 68.5 0 10 1977 68.3 0 Time Series Summary for SUSSEX AIRPORT, NJ - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2018 66.8 0 2 2015 66.5 0 3 2011 65.9 0 4 2021 65.7 0 5 2025 65.5 4 - 2005 65.5 0 6 2014 65.2 0 7 2017 65.1 0 8 2019 65.0 0 9 2016 64.6 8 10 2010 64.5 0 Time Series Summary for SOMERSET AIRPORT, NJ - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2015 69.8 0 2 2018 69.4 0 3 2016 68.7 0 - 2005 68.7 0 4 2025 67.9 4 - 2011 67.9 0 5 2019 67.8 0 6 2017 67.6 0 7 2023 67.4 0 8 2021 67.3 0 9 2010 67.0 0 - 2004 67.0 0 10 2007 66.8 0 Time Series Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2005 74.9 0 2 2015 74.1 0 3 2016 73.8 0 4 1961 73.6 0 5 2007 73.0 0 6 2018 72.8 0 7 2021 72.7 0 8 2010 72.5 0 - 1959 72.5 0 9 2019 72.1 0 10 1998 71.6 0 11 2017 71.5 0 12 2002 71.3 0 13 2025 71.1 4 - 2020 71.1 0 14 2023 71.0 0 15 2022 70.9 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, Sundog said: Most people that aren't low IQ have moved on from the argument that we aren't warming and have now embraced the "the cause is anything and everything BUT anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions" defense. Sadly there is a HUGE portion of the population that also thinks that the USA is the sole party responsible for fixing climate change when we account for only 10% of global emissions. I dont think most people deny its happening. I think beyond headlines most people just don’t care that much. They will reasonably make changes as necessary and drown out the overused catastrophic predictions. Personally, im not going to alter my life in any drastic measure to change the trajectory by a decimal point 100 years from now. If that means September is a summer month, I have plenty of shorts and tank tops. I think the biggest friction is between the mass populous that feels somewhat like I do and the doom predictors that want us to drastically change modern life. Up to 76 now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted 57 minutes ago Share Posted 57 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: I dont think most people deny its happening. I think beyond headlines most people just don’t care that much. They will reasonably make changes as necessary and drown out the overused catastrophic predictions. Personally, im not going to alter my life in any drastic measure to change the trajectory by a decimal point 100 years from now. If that means September is a summer month, I have plenty of shorts and tank tops. I think the biggest friction is between the mass populous that feels somewhat like I do and the doom predictors that want us to drastically change modern life. Up to 76 now! Unfortunately the slowly boiling frog in the pot applies here. Until we see undeniable catastrophic daily events globally then most will ignore it. Won't be long though. With current trends we'll see multiple unlivable conditions develop in a decade or so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 24 minutes ago Share Posted 24 minutes ago 46 minutes ago, bluewave said: Several stations had top 10 warmest September temperatures so far without that high of a departure since the new climate normals are so warm. Even the -0.4 at LGA is still the 13th warmest September temperature so far. 70° Septembers have become much more common than they used to be. Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2015 70.9 0 2 2005 70.2 0 3 2018 69.8 0 4 2021 69.6 0 - 1980 69.6 0 5 2025 69.3 4 6 2017 69.0 0 - 2011 69.0 0 7 2016 68.9 0 8 2023 68.6 0 - 1998 68.6 0 9 2010 68.3 0 10 2022 68.2 0 Time Series Summary for NEW HAVEN TWEED AP, CT - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2000 75.0 26 2 1961 70.2 0 3 2021 70.1 0 4 2018 69.4 0 5 2023 69.2 0 6 2015 69.1 0 - 2011 69.1 0 7 2025 68.9 4 - 2010 68.9 0 8 2022 68.7 0 9 1971 68.5 0 10 1977 68.3 0 Time Series Summary for SUSSEX AIRPORT, NJ - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2018 66.8 0 2 2015 66.5 0 3 2011 65.9 0 4 2021 65.7 0 5 2025 65.5 4 - 2005 65.5 0 6 2014 65.2 0 7 2017 65.1 0 8 2019 65.0 0 9 2016 64.6 8 10 2010 64.5 0 Time Series Summary for SOMERSET AIRPORT, NJ - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2015 69.8 0 2 2018 69.4 0 3 2016 68.7 0 - 2005 68.7 0 4 2025 67.9 4 - 2011 67.9 0 5 2019 67.8 0 6 2017 67.6 0 7 2023 67.4 0 8 2021 67.3 0 9 2010 67.0 0 - 2004 67.0 0 10 2007 66.8 0 Time Series Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY - Month of SepClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2005 74.9 0 2 2015 74.1 0 3 2016 73.8 0 4 1961 73.6 0 5 2007 73.0 0 6 2018 72.8 0 7 2021 72.7 0 8 2010 72.5 0 - 1959 72.5 0 9 2019 72.1 0 10 1998 71.6 0 11 2017 71.5 0 12 2002 71.3 0 13 2025 71.1 4 - 2020 71.1 0 14 2023 71.0 0 15 2022 70.9 0 See Chris, this is the difference between warm and hot. September 1983 was objectively and unequivocally the hottest September on record, but when you factor in minimum temperatures and not actual hot weather (above 90 degree heat), these other Septembers are warmer (but not as hot.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 22 minutes ago Share Posted 22 minutes ago 34 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: Unfortunately the slowly boiling frog in the pot applies here. Until we see undeniable catastrophic daily events globally then most will ignore it. Won't be long though. With current trends we'll see multiple unlivable conditions develop in a decade or so. Humanity will continue to exist (fortunately or unfortunately), we'll all just live in an Africa like climate (which is where humanity originated after all.) I'll make the devil's advocate argument here (because I can) global cooling is MUCH more dangerous than global warming and cooling episodes have historically killed many more people and caused starvation via crop failures. There is no boiling frog and by the way I find that phrase offensive since I am 100% against the killing of animals and animal cruelty in general. It's why I hate the French so much (they boil frogs and explode the stomachs of ducks to make foie gras.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 21 minutes ago Share Posted 21 minutes ago 1 minute ago, LibertyBell said: Humanity will continue to exist (fortunately or unfortunately), we'll all just live in an Africa like climate (which is where humanity originated after all.) I'll make the devil's advocate argument here (because I can) global cooling is MUCH more dangerous than global warming and cooling episodes have historically killed many more people and caused starvation via crop failures. There is no boiling frog and by the way I find that phrase offensive since I am 100% against the killing of animals and animal cruelty in general. It's why I hate the French so much (they boil frogs and explode the stomachs of ducks to make foie gras.) Are you a vegan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 20 minutes ago Share Posted 20 minutes ago 42 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: I dont think most people deny its happening. I think beyond headlines most people just don’t care that much. They will reasonably make changes as necessary and drown out the overused catastrophic predictions. Personally, im not going to alter my life in any drastic measure to change the trajectory by a decimal point 100 years from now. If that means September is a summer month, I have plenty of shorts and tank tops. I think the biggest friction is between the mass populous that feels somewhat like I do and the doom predictors that want us to drastically change modern life. Up to 76 now! Colder Septembers and Octobers -- the only people who like those are the energy companies who make money off of cold weather. The good thing about warmer falls is, it means less money for the fossil fuel cartels too lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 19 minutes ago Share Posted 19 minutes ago 1 minute ago, Sundog said: Are you a vegan? Yes, for three years now, but even if I wasn't what the French do is absolutely cruel. Many of our major cities have banned foie gras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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