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August 2025 Summer Thread


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2 hours ago, dendrite said:

It's a nice airmass, but *shocker* it modified from a week or so ago. The Euro AI backed off a little every run.

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It's not just the trough domain ...notice the heights in the west also inching polarward. 

Basically it's a problem plaguing the models, one that's gotten more obvious in the last 10 years, not going the other way with supposed upgrades.  They have to add heights everywhere when moving from ext --> mids --> short term. 

I come up with sci fi ideas. I can't help myself ... Like, they are trying to wholesale remove global warming from the ambience.   Or it's a conspiracy to do so because MAGAt's have a mole in the modeling R&D offices at NCEP...    heh   'Course, that myth gets immediately debunked when considering the zagnut scaled intellect of the MAGAtsphere: it could never produce an NCEP modeler, huh

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4 minutes ago, Torch Tiger said:

my o my, acatt ruined

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Ha ... pretty skimpy and petty.  

But I honestly don't know if the GFS run is very confident.   The EPS and GEFs means are trending larger heights below 40 N across the continent in the time frame above... Meanwhile, both operational ECMWF and GFS are flip flopping - this 12z run flopped back cooler.  Yet ...still the GFS gets a day with big numbers, no less.  Flip flopping means limited skill so ens means are more useful.

I don't think it's a cooler august.  That much seems pretty evident.  Question is whether it's mundanely AN or if it may host another heat wave or two.

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2 hours ago, Torch Tiger said:

95+ skimpy lol

no...it's the fact that it covers such a small geographical region.  Most of that chart is early autumn.   

Barely servicing that warm side of the debate, would be a fairer impression of that chart. 

But again ... I don't trust that GFS solution anyway.  Just sayn'

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1 hour ago, weatherwiz said:

I feel like this is going to be a special fall...warmth and humidity well through October. Will be able to watch football and hockey outside in shorts. With being to wear shorts with a hockey/football jersey it will look like you're not wearing pants. 

I don't ... I'm suspicious that it all collapses and we get shoulder season early blocking by early October, resulting in another early faux winter across mid latitudes, through ~ early Dec... (white Thanks Giggidy?)   Then, the real winter arrives as another wind scarped S/W shear show that shits on everyone's winter forecasts with unrelenting windy and mild steady state boredom.  Maybe a threat or two, sure... But outside of those, predominately AN months with a lot of jet speed shear with attenuating model outlooks in the nearer terms.   It all relaxes in March when a late SSW is just in time to fuck up early next summer with BD indignity days...

 

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1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said:

I don't ... I'm suspicious that it all collapses and we get shoulder season early blocking and the faux winters mid latitudes through early Dec...then, the mid winter wind scarping takes over and it goes windy and mild.  May a threat or two sure... but outside of those, predominated by AN months with a lot of jet speeds around.   It all relaxes in March when the SSW is just in time to fuck up early next summer with BD indignity days...

 

I could see that happening. I mean in all seriousness, we are going to start and see hemispheric changes occurring very soon (even this month) and we're really a strong disruption to the hemispheric flow away from truly (as Steve likes to say) breaking the back. This probably happens this month...that doesn't mean we aren't going to see any anomalously warm periods and high humidity, but we will get stronger cold fronts which will usher in those early fall like airmasses and the duration of the cooler airmasses behind these fronts will grow longer each time (until we erode summer for good). I am hoping to explore some seasonal thoughts in the next month/two but I begin grad school classes in 2.5 weeks so probably not going to have much time to divulge. 

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1 hour ago, weatherwiz said:

I could see that happening. I mean in all seriousness, we are going to start and see hemispheric changes occurring very soon (even this month) and we're really a strong disruption to the hemispheric flow away from truly (as Steve likes to say) breaking the back. This probably happens this month...that doesn't mean we aren't going to see any anomalously warm periods and high humidity, but we will get stronger cold fronts which will usher in those early fall like airmasses and the duration of the cooler airmasses behind these fronts will grow longer each time (until we erode summer for good). I am hoping to explore some seasonal thoughts in the next month/two but I begin grad school classes in 2.5 weeks so probably not going to have much time to divulge. 

well .. i was also intending a good bit of that for snarky sarcasm  :)    

But I do think like all snarky sarcasm ...there's an "air" of truism in there  ;) 

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10 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Golf courses flooded with bear men in wool suits. Playing 18 walking .. no carts 

I haven't played in many years but was going to try playing 9.  Do folks not walk anymore? That's the whole point for me, besides shooting under 45. lol 

WEEI sports radio are harsh towards walkers. :lol:

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