June 2025 discussion-obs: Summerlike

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, Sundog said:

I'm in favor of anything that will bring the average global temperature down. 

People say you can't run a global experiment like that without knowing the outcome. 

Oh but running a fossil fuel driven global experiment is no problem? We're already doing something bad, might as well mitigate the effects!

Yep we're already running a global experiment lol.

If you look back at the 80s, even though we didn't get a lot of big snowstorms, we did get extremely cold the likes of which we just don't see anymore.  Just look at all these below zero arctic outbreaks:

Christmas 1980

January 1982

December 1983

January 1985

and there was one of our coldest Decembers on record December 1989

Not a lot of snow but definitely plenty of cold.

 

[donsutherland1]

4 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

There's not even any rain to keep the park wet, it has to be all about shade.  JFK hit 92, I hit 94, it was a legit hot day, no reason for Central Park to be 88.

 

I reran the numbers, as the final data showed highs of 91 at ISP, 92 at JFK, 91 at LGA, and 95 at EWR to go with NYC's 89.

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, Sundog said:

That 89 is really something it's like the station is trolling us

So was that 99 last week.  To go along with the 99 in July 2013 which also should have been 100+.

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

So was that 99 last week.  To go along with the 99 in July 2013 which also should have been 100+.

That 99 last week was extremely significant.  Central Park lost out on its earliest 100 ever recorded there.

[Sundog]

1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

That 99 last week was extremely significant.  Central Park lost out on its earliest 100 ever recorded there.

As far as I'm concerned it was broken, I don't have to pretend that Central Park is accurate. 

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

I reran the numbers, as the final data showed highs of 91 at ISP, 92 at JFK, 91 at LGA, and 95 at EWR to go with NYC's 89.

It's hard to believe Central Park being 5 degrees cooler than me but here we are.

I'll also note that even when we went completely overcast here for an hour I was still 3 degrees hotter than Central Park's highest temperature of the day!

 

[LibertyBell]

Just now, Sundog said:

As far as I'm concerned it was broken, I don't have to pretend that Central Park is accurate. 

I really wish there was a way to adjust the numbers like they did for the January 2016 snowstorm.

Remember when they did that? It was originally slightly behind January 2006 and then adjusted upward later.

There is a scientific way of doing this using nearby stations.

[Sundog]

21 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I really wish there was a way to adjust the numbers like they did for the January 2016 snowstorm.

Remember when they did that? It was originally slightly behind January 2006 and then adjusted upward later.

There is a scientific way of doing this using nearby stations.

Feb 2006. But yea I remember when they adjusted January 2016 to be above that storm and become number 1. 

Feb 2006 was uber fluff anyway and that 26.9 inches was snowboard derived plus ultra local, I had closer to 20. 

January 2016 had 30 inches DEPTH and over a very large area, it was BS for that storm to not be number 1. 

[donsutherland1]

1 hour ago, Sundog said:

As far as I'm concerned it was broken, I don't have to pretend that Central Park is accurate. 

I ran the numbers for June 24 using both regression equations: Pre-2000: 101.9; 2000-Present: 99.5; there's little doubt that absent the dense tree cover that was largely not present prior to 2000, Central Park would have surpassed 100° on June 24. Below are the predicted vs. actual highs for Central Park during June 22-25, 2025.