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1 minute ago, Sundog said:

I'm in favor of anything that will bring the average global temperature down. 

People say you can't run a global experiment like that without knowing the outcome. 

Oh but running a fossil fuel driven global experiment is no problem? We're already doing something bad, might as well mitigate the effects!

Yep we're already running a global experiment lol.

If you look back at the 80s, even though we didn't get a lot of big snowstorms, we did get extremely cold the likes of which we just don't see anymore.  Just look at all these below zero arctic outbreaks:

Christmas 1980

January 1982

December 1983

January 1985

and there was one of our coldest Decembers on record December 1989

Not a lot of snow but definitely plenty of cold.

 

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4 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

There's not even any rain to keep the park wet, it has to be all about shade.  JFK hit 92, I hit 94, it was a legit hot day, no reason for Central Park to be 88.

 

I reran the numbers, as the final data showed highs of 91 at ISP, 92 at JFK, 91 at LGA, and 95 at EWR to go with NYC's 89.

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1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

That 99 last week was extremely significant.  Central Park lost out on its earliest 100 ever recorded there.

As far as I'm concerned it was broken, I don't have to pretend that Central Park is accurate. 

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2 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

I reran the numbers, as the final data showed highs of 91 at ISP, 92 at JFK, 91 at LGA, and 95 at EWR to go with NYC's 89.

It's hard to believe Central Park being 5 degrees cooler than me but here we are.

I'll also note that even when we went completely overcast here for an hour I was still 3 degrees hotter than Central Park's highest temperature of the day!

 

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Just now, Sundog said:

As far as I'm concerned it was broken, I don't have to pretend that Central Park is accurate. 

I really wish there was a way to adjust the numbers like they did for the January 2016 snowstorm.

Remember when they did that? It was originally slightly behind January 2006 and then adjusted upward later.

There is a scientific way of doing this using nearby stations.

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21 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I really wish there was a way to adjust the numbers like they did for the January 2016 snowstorm.

Remember when they did that? It was originally slightly behind January 2006 and then adjusted upward later.

There is a scientific way of doing this using nearby stations.

Feb 2006. But yea I remember when they adjusted January 2016 to be above that storm and become number 1. 

Feb 2006 was uber fluff anyway and that 26.9 inches was snowboard derived plus ultra local, I had closer to 20. 

January 2016 had 30 inches DEPTH and over a very large area, it was BS for that storm to not be number 1. 

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1 hour ago, Sundog said:

As far as I'm concerned it was broken, I don't have to pretend that Central Park is accurate. 

I ran the numbers for June 24 using both regression equations: Pre-2000: 101.9; 2000-Present: 99.5; there's little doubt that absent the dense tree cover that was largely not present prior to 2000, Central Park would have surpassed 100° on June 24. Below are the predicted vs. actual highs for Central Park during June 22-25, 2025.

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11 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

It's hard to believe Central Park being 5 degrees cooler than me but here we are.

I'll also note that even when we went completely overcast here for an hour I was still 3 degrees hotter than Central Park's highest temperature of the day!

 

Measuring the temperatures under a mature stand of trees will always be 3° to 5° cooler than in a grassy clearing on sunny and warm days.

NYC was usually pretty close to the surrounding sites like Newark from 1936 to 1980. This is when the thermometer wasn’t underneath trees.  Some heatwaves NYC was warmer than Newark. Many of the 100°+ readings from that era would have only been 98°-99°with a similar sitting to what NYC has seen since the increased tree growth in the last 10 years. 

Tree growth was slowly becoming an issue from the 1980s into the early 1990s. Then there was a greater shift in 1995 when the new ASOS was installed. This became much more pronounced since 2014 along with the continuing tree growth. 
 


 

Monthly Data for July 1936 for Upton NY NWS CWA
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NJ PLAINFIELD COOP 106
NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 106
NY PORT JERVIS COOP 105
NJ ELIZABETH COOP 105
NJ JERSEY CITY COOP 105
NJ LITTLE FALLS COOP 105
NJ PATERSON COOP 105
NJ CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR COOP 105
NY SCARSDALE COOP 105
NY BEDFORD HILLS COOP 105
NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 104
NY FLUSHING COOP 104
NY WEST POINT COOP 104
NY MOUNT VERNON COOP 103
NY HICKSVILLE COOP 103
NY CARMEL COOP 103
CT WATERBURY ANACONDA COOP 103
CT WATERBURY CITY HALL COOP 103


 

Monthly Data for July 1949 for Upton NY NWS CWA
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NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 105
NJ PATERSON COOP 105
NJ PLAINFIELD COOP 104
CT MOUNT CARMEL COOP 104
CT NORWALK COOP 102
NJ CANOE BROOK COOP 102
NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 102
NJ RUTHERFORD COOP 102
CT WATERBURY ANACONDA COOP 102
NY SCARSDALE COOP 101
NJ ELIZABETH COOP 101
NJ RIDGEFIELD COOP 101
CT WATERBURY CITY HALL COOP 101
NY DOBBS FERRY-ARDSLEY COOP 100
NY WEST POINT COOP 100
CT GREENWICH COOP 100
CT BRIDGEPORT COOP 100
NY BEDFORD HILLS COOP 100
NY WESTCHESTER CO AP WBAN 100
NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 100


 

Monthly Data for September 1953 for Upton NY NWS CWA
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NJ PATERSON COOP 106
NJ PLAINFIELD COOP 105
NJ ELIZABETH COOP 105
NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 105
NJ LITTLE FALLS COOP 105
NY WEST POINT COOP 105
NJ WANAQUE RAYMOND DAM COOP 104
NY SUFFERN 2 E COOP 104
NY PORT JERVIS COOP 103
NY NEW YORK LAUREL HILL COOP 103
NJ ESSEX FELLS SERVICE BLDG COOP 103
NY NORTHPORT COOP 103
NY BEDFORD HILLS COOP 103
NY CARMEL COOP 103
CT WATERBURY ANACONDA COOP 103
NY NY WESTERLEIGH STAT IS COOP 102
NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 102
NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 102
NJ RIDGEFIELD COOP 102
NY STEWART FIELD WBAN 102
NY WALDEN 2 NE COOP 102
CT NORWALK COOP 102
NY SCARSDALE COOP 102
NY DOBBS FERRY-ARDSLEY COOP 101
CT STAMFORD COOP 101
CT NORWICH 5 SW COOP 101
NJ CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR COOP 100
NY OSSINING SING SING COOP 100
NY MIDDLETOWN 2 NW COOP 100
NY FARMINGDALE 2 NE COOP 100
CT DANBURY COOP 100
NY WESTCHESTER CO AP WBAN 100

 

 

Monthly Data for August 1955 for Upton NY NWS CWA
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NJ PLAINFIELD COOP 103
NJ ELIZABETH COOP 103
NJ PATERSON COOP 103
NY HEMPSTEAD MALVERNE COOP 103
NY PORT JERVIS COOP 102
NJ LITTLE FALLS COOP 102
NY NEW YORK FLOYD BENNETT FIELD WBAN 101
NY NEW YORK LAUREL HILL COOP 101
NY DOBBS FERRY-ARDSLEY COOP 101
NY WEST POINT COOP 101
NY CARMEL COOP 101
NJ JERSEY CITY COOP 100
NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 100
NY NY WESTERLEIGH STAT IS COOP 100
NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 100
NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 100
NJ RIDGEFIELD COOP 100
NJ ESSEX FELLS SERVICE BLDG COOP 100
NJ WANAQUE RAYMOND DAM COOP 100
NY SUFFERN 2 E COOP 100
NY WALDEN 2 NE COOP 100

 

 

Monthly Data for July 1966 for Upton NY NWS CWA
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NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 107
NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 105
NY NEW YORK AVE V BROOKLYN COOP 105
NY JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WBAN 104
NY ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP WBAN 104
NY PORT JERVIS COOP 104
NY NEW YORK LAUREL HILL COOP 104
NJ LITTLE FALLS COOP 104
NY WEST POINT COOP 103
NY MINEOLA COOP 103
CT NORWALK GAS PLANT COOP 103
NJ ELIZABETH COOP 103
NJ CANOE BROOK COOP 103
NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 103
NJ ESSEX FELLS SERVICE BLDG COOP 103
NJ PATERSON COOP 103

 

Monthly Data for July 1977 for Upton NY NWS CWA
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NY NEW YORK LAUREL HILL COOP 104
NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 104
NY DOBBS FERRY-ARDSLEY COOP 103
NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 102
NJ TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 102
CT NORWALK GAS PLANT COOP 102
NJ ESSEX FELLS SERVICE BLDG COOP 101
NY WEST POINT COOP 101
NY VANDERBILT MUSEUM COOP 101
NJ PLAINFIELD COOP 100
NJ CRANFORD COOP 100
NY NEW YORK AVE V BROOKLYN COOP 100
NY NY WESTERLEIGH STAT IS COOP 100
NJ LITTLE FALLS COOP 100
NY MARYKNOLL COOP 100
CT STAMFORD 5 N COOP 100
NY SCARSDALE COOP 100
CT NEW HAVEN COOP 100
CT MIDDLETOWN 4 W COOP 100
NJ CANOE BROOK COOP 99
NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 99
NJ WANAQUE RAYMOND DAM COOP 99
NY SUFFERN COOP 99
CT DANBURY COOP 99
NY WESTCHESTER CO AP WBAN 99


 

Monthly Data for July 1980 for Upton NY NWS CWA
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NY DOBBS FERRY-ARDSLEY COOP 104
NY NEW YORK LAUREL HILL COOP 104
NJ PLAINFIELD COOP 102
NJ CRANFORD COOP 102
NY NY WESTERLEIGH STAT IS COOP 102
NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 102
NJ LODI COOP 102
NJ TETERBORO AIRPORT WBAN 102
NJ WANAQUE RAYMOND DAM COOP 101
NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 101
NY NEW YORK AVE V BROOKLYN COOP 101
NJ ESSEX FELLS SERVICE BLDG COOP 101
NJ LITTLE FALLS COOP 101
CT NORWALK GAS PLANT COOP 101
NY SCARSDALE COOP 101
NY WEST POINT COOP 100
NJ CANOE BROOK COOP 100
CT NEW HAVEN COOP 100
CT NORWICH PUBLIC UTILITY PLANT COOP 100
NY LAGUARDIA AIRPORT WBAN 99
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80 / 67 partly cloudy.   ENE flow.  More uppper 80s  / low 90s with scattered storms tonight.  Tuesday warm - hot and humid with upper 80s to  low 90s and more widespread storms in the evening and overnight into Wed.   Wed, remains warm-hot with isolated storms.  80s- 90.   Thu continues with trough swinging storms through later in the day ahead of the fourth. Dry out for the fourth and a gorgeous dry/ clear day 80s some 70s for the 4th.  Warmer by the 5th and heat  in to the week of the 7th split between the gfs and euro beyond with ridge building west and cooler period by the 10th before expanding heat mid month.

 

6/30 - 7/3  : War - hot 80s - 90s with storms focus tue PM/evening, wed evening
7/4 :  Dry - clear  gorgeous fourth of july
7/5 - 7/6 : Hot/ humid
7/7 - 7/8 :   Hot
7/9  - beyond :  turning cooler 

 

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Records:

Highs:

EWR: 103 (2021)
NYC: 99 (1964)
LGA: 100 (2021)
JFK: 99 (1964)


Lows:

EWR: 55 (1940)
NYC: 53 (1914)
LA: 57 (1996)
JFK: 56 (1988)


Historical: 

 

 


1816: The mean temperature for June 1816 in Philadelphia, PA was a record breaking 64°F (p.33 Washington Weather Book 2002 by Ambrose, Henry, Weiss)

1841: A tornado hit Danvers, Salem, and Marblehead, MA. During this severe weather event, small fish fell on a street in Boston.
(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)
 

1886 - The second destructive hurricane in nine days hit the Apalachicola-Tallahassee area. (David Ludlum)

1900: The combination of high winds and the presence of wooded fuel-filled cargo helped to spread fire on the Hoboken Docks in New Jersey. The fire began when cotton bales caught fire and spread to nearby volatile liquids. The fire killed at least 300 people and was seen in New York City. 

1901
Maximum temperature greater than 85° in Washington, DC from June 21st until July 7th, and greater than 90°F from 25th to 4th and 98° on 30th.
(Ref. Washington Weather Records - KDCA)

1908: A huge fireball streaked across the sky during the early morning hours over Siberia. A huge explosion occurred in the air near the remote Stony Tunguska River. The explosion flattened trees for 40 miles around and killed wildlife, but no crater or meteorite fragments were ever found. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1930: The Great Drought of 1930-1931 the year of 1930 was the driest year since the drought of 1869 to 1870. The drought caused $40 million dollars (1930 dollars) in losses to farmers in Maryland alone. Forest fires by the dry spell caused $580,000 in losses in Maryland. The precipitation deficit began in December 1929 and was fully classified as a drought by May of 1930. An extreme dry period set in from the end of June 1930 and continued through February 1931. During the 15-month period from December 1929 through February 1931, most places saw 60 percent or less of their normal rainfall. The average precipitation across Maryland and Delaware was 29.58 inches, which was 21.51 inches below normal. Baltimore recorded 27.31 inches for the 15-month period that was 23.03 inches below normal or 54% or normal. Washington, DC recorded 26.78 inches, which was 20.40 inches below normal or 57% below normal. The drought of 1998 to 1999 did not come near this severity, but it was the second severest drought of this century. The Palmer index, which is used to signal drought severity, classifies values of -3 to -4 as "severe drought" and values at -4 or less as "extreme drought". The Palmer Index for the region reached its lowest values during the end of the extreme dry period. In Maryland, west of the bay, Northern Virginia and the eastern panhandle of West Virginia, the Palmer Index was between -6.5 and -7.5 for January and February. Areas experienced up to 17   months of extreme drought conditions. The drought moderated some after February 1931 with periodic rains and showers through the summer months that helped the crops. However, these rains were not enough to restore the water table and water flow levels. Officially the drought did not end until about May 1932.
 

1942 - The temperature at Portland, OR, hit 102 degrees, an all-time record for that location. (The Weather Channel)

1949: Only 0.02 inches of rain fell at Central Park in New York City for its driest month on record. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1968: A cloudy June came to an end in Sault Ste. Marie, MI. Not one clear day was observed during the month. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1972: The entire state of Pennsylvania was declared a disaster area as a result of the catastrophic flooding caused by Hurricane Agnes, which claimed 48 lives, and caused 2.1 billion dollars damage. (The Weather Channel)

 

1972 - The entire state of Pennsylvania was declared a disaster area as a result of the catastrophic flooding caused by Hurricane Agnes, which claimed 48 lives, and caused 2.1 billion dollars damage. (The Weather Channel)

1978: Havre, MT measured a wind gust to 138 mph from a severe thunderstorm. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1986: Thunderstorms produced large hail and high winds in southwest South Dakota. During the afternoon hours hail up to the size of baseballs pounded Ellsworth Air Force base near Rapid City. 20 people were hurt at the Air Force Base as the hail broke over one thousand windows. Hail was 3 to 6 inches deep on the roads in Spearfish Canyon in the Black Hills and snowplows needed to be called out to clear the roads.

1986: Today marked the end of the driest six months on record for the Athens, GA area since records began in 1845. The six month precipitation total at Athens was 11.23 inches compared to the normal of 27.33 inches. This also marked the end of the driest six months on record for Lynchburg, VA, with only 9.43 inches measured. Where as San Antonio, TX had their wettest June on record with 11.95 inches of rain besting the previous record of 10.44 inches set back in 1973. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1987 - Hot weather prevailed in the Pacific Northwest, with readings above 100 degrees reported as far north as southern British Columbia. Yakima, WA, reported a record high of 100 degrees, while temperatures near the Washington coast hovered near 60 degrees all day. Thunderstorms prevailed from southwest Texas to New England. Thunderstorm winds gusting to 100 mph at Gettysburg, PA, killed one person. High winds and large hail caused more than five million dollars damage to property and crops in Lancaster County, PA. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Thunderstorms in eastern Kansas drenched Worden with 12.21 inches of rain, and a wall of water two to four feet deep swept through Lone Star, KS, flooding every home in the town. Up to ten inches of rain was reported southeast of Callaway, NE. Thunderstorm winds gusted to 75 mph at Winfield, KS. Seventeen cities in the north central and northeastern U.S. reported record low temperatures for the date, including Duluth, MN, with a reading of 36 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Winnfield, LA, reported 22.52 inches of rain in three days, and more than thirty inches for the month, a record for June. Shreveport LA received a record 17.11 inches in June, with a total for the first six months of the year of 45.55 inches. Thunderstorms also helped produce record rainfall totals for the month of June of 13.12 inches at Birmingham AL, 14.66 inches at Oklahoma City, OK, 17.41 inches at Tallahassee FL, 9.97 inches at Lynchburg, VA, and more than 10.25 inches at Pittsburgh, PA. Pittsburgh had also experienced a record wet month of May. (The National Weather Summary)


1991: Five inch diameter hailstones bombarded a spot near the town of Hathaway, MT. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1992: 399 tornadoes occurred across the U.S. during June. This set a new record for the greatest number of tornadoes in a single month up to that time (this record was broken in May 2003). (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1993: Across parts of South Dakota, June of 1993 was a cool and wet month. In Iowa, temperatures averaged nearly three degrees below normal while precipitation averaged 8.09 inches, which is 3.67 inches above normal. Le Mars was one of only two stations which recorded below normal rainfall for June of 1993, but still received 3.09 inches. Not too far away though, Estherville recorded its wettest month on record with an astounding 13.49 inches.

1993: Mississippi River levels rose dramatically during the last half of the month. On the Upper Mississippi River basin near the Quad Cities, river levels rose above major flood levels which occurred in 1965 and 1973.
(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1994: El Paso, TX soared to 114° to break their all-time record high temperature, again. A record high of 113° was just set on the 27th and 28th of this month. (Extreme Weather p. 277, by Christopher C. Burt - The 1981 record) (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1999: Mount Baker, Washington closed out a record snowfall season both for the United States and the verifiable world record as the seasonal total from July 1, 1998, to June 30, 1999, finished with 1,140 inches.

2001: A severe thunderstorm at 1 AM produced baseball size hail and 80 mph winds at Ashland, MT. The storm had tops up to 70,000 feet. There were many smashed windows and windshields and birds killed. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2003: Tropical Storm Bill added to the second wettest June ever at New Orleans, LA by dropping over 4.50 inches of rain, bringing the monthly total to 17.37 inches. This was just shy of the all-time wettest June ever, which occurred in 2001, when 17.62 inches fell.
New York City, NY closed out the month with a record amount of rain for any June as 10.27 inches fell, nearly three times the normal monthly amount of 3.84 inches.  (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2005: June had 13 days with 90°F or above temperatures which ties the old record set in 1994. (Ref. Annandale Weather Records - KRIC)

2005: Lightning injured five campers at Loft Mountain Campsite in the Shenandoah National Park (Albemarle County). (Ref. Lightning - Virginia Weather History)

2005: A derecho produced 80 mph winds and damaged several homes/structures in S Crawford County (KS). 2 women were hurt as winds destroyed a mobile home between McCune and Cherokee. One of the women was critically injured when “scalped” by flying debris. (Ref. Weather Guide Calendar with Phenomenal Weather Events 2011 Accord Pub. 2010, USA)

2010: The hottest June on Record! The Richmond International Airport reported the mean temperature for June was 81.1 °F which was a new 113 year record. This breaks the old record of 79.2 °F set in 1943 and was a +8.7 °F departure from average. June had 8 new daily temperature records and all were for heat. Both June 27th and 28th had a maximum temperature 102 °F. Richmond has never had back to back 102 °F days before in June. Only three June days have been hotter: (June 30, 1937 103 °F) (June 19, 1944 103 °F) (June 26, 1952 104 °F ) June 2010 also had 19 days of 90 °F or higher temperatures the record was 20 in 1943. June had only 0.82 inches rainfall making it the second driest in 113 years only 1980 was drier with only 0.38 inches and with the heat made severe drought conditions. (Ref. Richmond Weather Records - KRIC)

2010: Both Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and Washington, D.C. recorded their hottest Junes, with the thermometer in Philadelphia averaging 5.9°F above normal for the month. Miami, Florida notched not just its hottest June, but its hottest month on record.
(Ref. Weatherwise U.S. Weather Highlights of 2010 page 8 )

2011: Chicago got hammered with 2-inch hail (that damaged cars/police cars) and up to 800 lightning strikes in 10 minutes! This storm caused 94 mph in a harbor on Lake Michigan just north of the city and a funnel cloud was spotted.(Ref. Images by John Koontz) (Ref. Amazing You-Tube Video of a Very Close Lightning Strike) (Ref. NWS Tells the Complete Story in a 5 Min. Movie)

2015: The heat was a big story for us throughout the month of June. It may come as no surprise then that this was one of the warmest Junes on record in Richmond. Our average temperature was 77.92° for the month. That was high enough to place June 2015 as the 8th warmest June in Richmond since record-keeping began in 1880. Richmond International Airport normal average temperature is 74.3°F. Richmond's (Ref. NWS Wakefield)

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On 6/29/2025 at 7:59 AM, bluewave said:

Another top 10 warmest month for the Northeast.

 

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Some very impressive anomalies out there, with several sites reporting temperatures as much as 5-7F above the 1991-2020 mean. Very impressive deviations relative to normal for a summertime month. The New York City metro area has actually been relatively cool compared to many locales.

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Widening out a bit (not depicted), the west also has seen similar departures relative to normal, despite a recent cold snap that brought snow to the higher elevations. Looks like this could be one of the warmest Junes on record for the CONUS as a whole. Although I highly doubt we will unseat 2021 for the record warmest, which had some truly insane +6-8F anomalies across much of the intermountain west.

 

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