June 2025 discussion-obs: Summerlike

[Sundog]

Hey not only is the 6z Euro AI free (regular 6z Euro is locked on Pivotal and Tidbits takes forever) it also goes out to 360 hours. I don't know how I never noticed lol

[forkyfork]

keep dreaming snow bunnies

 

[forkyfork]

all time june records are possible

[FPizz]

19 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Hey not only is the 6z Euro AI free (regular 6z Euro is locked on Pivotal and Tidbits takes forever) it also goes out to 360 hours. I don't know how I never noticed lol

Yeah, that is why I was confused a bit.  I never noticed that either.

[vegan_edible]

lets frickin roast

[bluewave]

We just set the all-time 500mb height record last June at 599 DM. So getting a ridge nearly this strong only a year later is pretty extreme. Several spots around the region made it to 100°.

This time around the models are forecasting 850mb temperatures which will be several degrees higher around 22C to 23C. So there is a good chance that the usual warm spots from Central NJ to interior Queens will see 100° or higher heat next week with how unusually well the ensembles agree.

Newark recently set their June all-time high of 103° back in 2021 which could be challenged. LGA recorded their 2nd highest June high temperature at 100°. Their all-time June high is 101° set in 2017.

 

 

 

[psv88]

2 hours ago, Sundog said:

 

My wife said to fill up the cars with gas just in case we have to sit in there with the car AC if the power goes out lol 

I can't think of another conversation I'd rather not have more than that one haha

 

We live on an island surrounded by water…

[SnoSki14]

Let's break the power grid. 105+

[steve392]

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

I'm trying to remember all the most uncomfortable times my power went out.  Number 1 would have to be August 2003 when we had that massive power outage that covered 1/3 of the country and eastern Canada.  Our second longest power outage (behind the one that came with Sandy) at 13 hours.  It was the hottest day of the entire summer (95 degrees) and no breeze even at night.  I was too young to remember July 1977 but I think that would have been first if I had any memories of it outside of sitting in the dark with my family and hearing lots of sirens outside.

Next up would be a 4 hour power outage we had in January 2018 I think it was.  I was getting ready to see a total lunar eclipse at 11:30 that night and it was brutally cold and very windy and the power went out right after sunset and it stayed out until 11 PM.  The high winds did it and I was freezing for hours without power.  The wind came right into my house.

Next on the list is November a few years ago (I forget the year), when we had 8 tornadoes in one day on Long Island.  One of the tornadoes (an EF2) was close by-- I never saw it-- but had no power for 4 hours and was shivering all afternoon.  The power came back around sunset.

Next would be Sandy in October 2012 which was our longest power outage (25 hours) I was shivering all night.  The next day wasn't so bad without any power all day, because it came back around sunset.

Next is last August when I lost power for 4 hours again when it was sunny outside, no bad weather at all.  It was in the low to mid 80s and with a light wind it felt hot without any a/c.

Next would be March 2018 my power went out for 2 hours during the first of four noreasters that month.  It wasn't as bad as the other ones I listed because the power came back pretty quickly.

I never lost power at my home in little ferry.  It surged all night but never went out.  Was odd being one of the few houses in the area with full power...and A/C!

[SACRUS]

 

Meanwhile  96 hours of sub 70 a mighty task for June

 

66 here.

 

 

[SACRUS]

41 minutes ago, bluewave said:

We just set the all-time 500mb height record last June at 599 DM. So getting a ridge nearly this strong only a year later is pretty extreme. Several spots around the region made it to 100°.

This time around the models are forecasting 850mb temperatures which will be several degrees higher around 22C to 23C. So there is a good chance that the usual warm spots from Central NJ to interior Queens will see 100° or higher heat next week with how unusually well the ensembles agree.

Newark recently set their June all-time high of 103° back in 2021 which could be challenged. LGA recorded their 2nd highest June high temperature at 100°. Their all-time June high is 101° set in 2017.

 

 

 

 

 

It would be interesting to see the 500MB charts from (Jul 15-20) 2013 and (Jul  16 - 24) 2011 to compare vs the forecasted ridge as well as 2024 (June).   Jun 7-10 had some strong heat as well for if talking June specific.

[LibertyBell]

37 minutes ago, steve392 said:

I never lost power at my home in little ferry.  It surged all night but never went out.  Was odd being one of the few houses in the area with full power...and A/C!

even during Sandy? wow

[LibertyBell]

49 minutes ago, bluewave said:

We just set the all-time 500mb height record last June at 599 DM. So getting a ridge nearly this strong only a year later is pretty extreme. Several spots around the region made it to 100°.

This time around the models are forecasting 850mb temperatures which will be several degrees higher around 22C to 23C. So there is a good chance that the usual warm spots from Central NJ to interior Queens will see 100° or higher heat next week with how unusually well the ensembles agree.

Newark recently set their June all-time high of 103° back in 2021 which could be challenged. LGA recorded their 2nd highest June high temperature at 100°. Their all-time June high is 101° set in 2017.

 

 

 

*usual warm spots* doesn't cut it Chris, if the entire region doesn't hit 100+ it's not historic

[LibertyBell]

50 minutes ago, vegan_edible said:

lets frickin roast

much better than foggy and not being able to see outside

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

 

It would be interesting to see the 500MB charts from (Jul 15-20) 2013 and (Jul  16 - 24) 2011 to compare vs the forecasted ridge as well as 2024 (June).   Jun 7-10 had some strong heat as well for if talking June specific.

July 2010 too.

 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, forkyfork said:

all time june records are possible

101+ needed for that at NYC and JFK.

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, FPizz said:

It's on Pivotal, Euro-AIFS.   Is that the Euro AI?  It has 70s on its 06z run, but I'm not sure if that is the AI model?

those colors are still awful though

 

[SACRUS]

2024

EWR:

6/17: 92
6/18: 91
6/19: 93
6/20: 97
6/21: 100
6/22: 95 
6/23: 99
6/24: 84
6/25: 94 
6/26 : 98 

 

2021

 

EWR:

6/27:  95
6/28: 99 
6/29: 102
6/30: 103

 

2017:

EWR:

6/11: 94
6/12: 97 
6/13: 99

 

2012:

EWR:

6/20: 98 
6/21: 99 
6/22:  96


 

2011:

EWR:

6/7:  92 
6/8: 99 
6/9:  102

 

 

2008:

EWR:

6/7: 97
6/8: 96 
6/9: 99 
6/10: 99

 

1994:

EWR:

6/14:  98 
6/15: 101
6/16: 85 
6/17:  91
6/18: 96 
6/19: 102

 

 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, bluewave said:

Philly made it to 100° last July at one of the airports and downtown.

 

Monthly Data for July 2024 for Mount Holly NJ NWS CWA
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

PA	PHILADELPHIA FRANKLIN INSTITUTE	COOP	101
PA	NORTHEAST PHILADELPHIA AIRPORT	WBAN	100
NJ	HIGHTSTOWN 2 W	COOP	100

Does KPHL has some sort of issue like KNYC does?

 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, FPizz said:

Euro Ai hot M-W, then 70s by Thurs?

as long as it hits 100+ for at least one day, it can snow on Thursday for all I care.

 

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

2024

EWR:

6/17: 92
6/18: 91
6/19: 93
6/20: 97
6/21: 100
6/22: 95 
6/23: 99
6/24: 84
6/25: 94 
6/26 : 98 

 

2021

 

EWR:

6/27:  95
6/28: 99 
6/29: 102
6/30: 103

 

2017:

EWR:

6/11: 94
6/12: 97 
6/13: 99

 

2012:

EWR:

6/20: 98 
6/21: 99 
6/22:  96


 

2011:

EWR:

6/7:  92 
6/8: 99 
6/9:  102

 

 

2008:

EWR:

6/7: 97
6/8: 96 
6/9: 99 
6/10: 99

 

1994:

EWR:

6/14:  98 
6/15: 101
6/16: 85 
6/17:  91
6/18: 96 
6/19: 102

 

 

got anything for 2010 or 1993 or 1991 Tony?

[steve392]

6 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

even during Sandy? wow

No, sandy destroyed everything in Little Ferry except where i grew up and live again.  Highest point of town and only party that don't require flood insurance after all flood maps were updated because of sandy.  I lived in New Milford during Sandy, our area and old home were without power for almost a week.

[bluewave]

9 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Does KPHL has some sort of issue like KNYC does?

 

No. They maintain the site just fine. But it’s located right on the widest part of the Delaware River. So it runs cooler than the rest of Philly and Eastern PA. 
 

Data for January 1, 2020 through June 17, 2025
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

HARRISBURG CAPITAL CITY AP	WBAN	103
SHIPPENSBURG	COOP	102
MURRYSVILLE 2 SW	COOP	102
ACMETONIA LOCK 3	COOP	102
WOLFSBURG	COOP	101
CASHTOWN 1S	COOP	101
PHILADELPHIA FRANKLIN INSTITUTE	COOP	101
Reading Area	ThreadEx	101
Philadelphia Center City Area	ThreadEx	101
READING REGIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	101
OCTORARO LAKE	COOP	100
SAFE HARBOR DAM	COOP	100
BIGLERVILLE	COOP	100
CHAMBERSBURG 1 ESE	COOP	100
YORK AIRPORT	WBAN	100
NORTHEAST PHILADELPHIA AIRPORT	WBAN	100
NORRISTOWN	COOP	100
HANOVER 4 SW	COOP	100
LANCASTER AIRPORT	WBAN	100
MIDDLETOWN HARRISBURG INT'L AP	WBAN	100
Williamsport Area	ThreadEx	100
Middletown-Harrisburg Area	ThreadEx	100
CARLISLE WATER PLANT	COOP	100
WILLIAMSPORT REGIONAL AP	WBAN	100
PHILADELPHIA INTL AP	WBAN	99

[winterwarlock]

Getting Ray Bradbury All Summer In A Day vibes

[Sundog]

The 12z GFS has a stronger SSE breeze for Monday keeping the coast from the full roast, it's a bit cooler than the 6z run. 

[Sundog]

A bit more seabreeze on Tuesday as well compared to 6z. Still gets to 100+ but coastal places cool off to reasonable levels

[Sundog]

@forkyfork the GFS just doesn't a strong westerly flow at the surface to fight off the afternoon seabreeze for the people east of 95. I am not saying it's right, although I really hope it is!

This is all deep into fantasy range anyway. 

[Sundog]

If you think that's funny the 12z GGEM just gave us a backdoor cold front for next Tuesday, the same day the Euro was giving us upper 100s yesterday:

[SI Mailman]

Nah, if you did that you'd be done readng in 30 seconds for a full day's posts. What's the point of restricting posting during what is a weather forum's traditional "low season?"

If you put him on ignore, you can get through the thread a whole lot faster

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, SI Mailman said:

If you put him on ignore, you can get through the thread a whole lot faster

He's definitely not smart enough to figure that out (talking about the *omega man*), plus he's a sour grapes 5 poster ..... *people who live in glass houses*....