LibertyBell Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 1 hour ago, FPizz said: It was joke, but no one here can take it when the temp actually lines up with other spots for 95% of the calendar days. Too easy. I also noticed there are days when LGA is colder than JFK in the spring and summer. I enjoy those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 6 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: when you have offshore winds JFK will often be several degrees hotter than Central Park. It's one reason why I love the south shore, we always heat up more quickly than other areas, even more than Newark, on an offshore wind. On average JFK is a lot cooler than NYC because of its south shore-ish location. So when Central Park has temperatures comparable to a beach location you know you have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 6 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: I also noticed there are days when LGA is colder than JFK in the spring and summer. I enjoy those days. LGA is almost never cooler than JFK, maybe in the spring a little if there is a NE wind. Otherwise LGA can be 95 degrees while JFK has a south wind and low 80s. Trust me that happens all the time because I get jealous of the cooldown that doesn't reach me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 16 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: We also have to remember that it's a park and park temperature data is not comparable to airport temperature data. But does the park represent the concrete heat jungle of Manhattan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 5 minutes ago, Sundog said: LGA is almost never cooler than JFK, maybe in the spring a little if there is a NE wind. Otherwise LGA can be 95 degrees while JFK has a south wind and low 80s. Trust me that happens all the time because I get jealous of the cooldown that doesn't reach me. South winds are the bane of my existence. I would put up a giant wind wall along the beach if I could to keep the crap sea air away. Check out July 2010 when JFK exceeded 100 and LGA did not. I only want west, north and northwest winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 Just now, Dark Star said: But does the park represent the concrete heat jungle of Manhattan? No it doesn't There's another ASOS somewhere in Manhattan if I remember correctly, at the heliport, I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 7 minutes ago, Sundog said: LGA is almost never cooler than JFK, maybe in the spring a little if there is a NE wind. Otherwise LGA can be 95 degrees while JFK has a south wind and low 80s. Trust me that happens all the time because I get jealous of the cooldown that doesn't reach me. It's actually a give and take, when JFK is cooler than LGA the humidity is much higher. It's never a free lunch. I would much rather have 100 degrees with a 60 dew point than 80 degrees with a 75 dew point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 13 minutes ago, Sundog said: On average JFK is a lot cooler than NYC because of its south shore-ish location. So when Central Park has temperatures comparable to a beach location you know you have a problem. The main problem is measuring temperatures in a park. New York City is nothing like a park and the airports are more representative. If it was up to me, we'd use temperature data from downtown somewhere, there is an ASOS near the heliport. I wouldn't say JFK is a lot cooler, it really depends on wind direction. If you go further out on long island, like the Hamptons, they are a lot cooler, but where we are in SW Nassau it's not a lot cooler because we heat up faster than the city in the mornings and the wind has a much shorter trajectory over water than it does in places farther east. Trust me, I live here and it's not a lot cooler than the city, unless you're talking about the temperatures near the subway entrances lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/jfk-airport/highest-temperatures 19 times 100 or higher, honorable mention to the two back to back 99 readings in July 2019 which had the highest heat indices ever recorded at JFK (117). Rank Temperature Date 1 104 °F July 3, 1966 2 103 °F July 22, 2011 3 102 °F July 23, 2011 3 102 °F July 5, 1999 3 102 °F July 1, 1963 6 101 °F July 6, 2010 6 101 °F July 4, 2010 6 101 °F July 9, 1993 6 101 °F July 4, 1966 6 101 °F July 2, 1966 6 101 °F July 22, 1957 6 101 °F August 27, 1948 13 100 °F July 18, 2013 13 100 °F July 7, 2010 13 100 °F July 10, 1993 13 100 °F August 20, 1983 13 100 °F July 16, 1983 13 100 °F July 23, 1972 13 100 °F August 26, 1948 20 99 °F July 21, 2019 20 99 °F July 20, 2019 20 99 °F July 7, 2012 20 99 °F August 3, 2006 20 99 °F July 29, 2002 20 99 °F July 4, 2002 20 99 °F August 8, 2001 20 99 °F July 6, 1999 20 99 °F July 21, 1991 20 99 °F July 7, 1986 20 99 °F July 15, 1983 20 99 °F July 23, 1978 20 99 °F May 29, 1969 20 99 °F June 30, 1964 20 99 °F June 29, 1959 20 99 °F August 20, 1955 20 99 °F June 26, 1952 20 99 °F August 11, 1949 20 99 °F June 26, 1949 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 wow 19 recorded 99 degree readings at JFK (including some in May and June) is wild. This has the top 10 at JFK (but leaves some out). https://recordtemps.in/new-york-kennedy-airport-new-york 10 highest recorded temperatures at New York-Kennedy Airport Area, New York (JFKthr) 07-03-1966: 104°F 07-22-2011: 103°F 07-01-1963: 102°F 07-05-1999: 102°F 07-23-2011: 102°F 07-02-1966: 101°F 07-04-2010: 101°F 07-06-2010: 101°F 07-09-1993: 101°F 08-27-1948: 101°F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 3 hours ago, LibertyBell said: https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/jfk-airport/highest-temperatures 19 times 100 or higher, honorable mention to the two back to back 99 readings in July 2019 which had the highest heat indices ever recorded at JFK Rank Temperature Date 1 104 °F July 3, 1966 2 103 °F July 22, 2011 3 102 °F July 23, 2011 3 102 °F July 5, 1999 3 102 °F July 1, 1963 6 101 °F July 6, 2010 6 101 °F July 4, 2010 6 101 °F July 9, 1993 6 101 °F July 4, 1966 6 101 °F July 2, 1966 6 101 °F July 22, 1957 6 101 °F August 27, 1948 13 100 °F July 18, 2013 13 100 °F July 7, 2010 13 100 °F July 10, 1993 13 100 °F August 20, 1983 13 100 °F July 16, 1983 13 100 °F July 23, 1972 13 100 °F August 26, 1948 20 99 °F July 21, 2019 20 99 °F July 20, 2019 20 99 °F July 7, 2012 20 99 °F August 3, 2006 20 99 °F July 29, 2002 20 99 °F July 4, 2002 20 99 °F August 8, 2001 20 99 °F July 6, 1999 20 99 °F July 21, 1991 20 99 °F July 7, 1986 20 99 °F July 15, 1983 20 99 °F July 23, 1978 20 99 °F May 29, 1969 20 99 °F June 30, 1964 20 99 °F June 29, 1959 20 99 °F August 20, 1955 20 99 °F June 26, 1952 20 99 °F August 11, 1949 20 99 °F June 26, 1949 Some noted 100+ streaks were the three 100+ temperatures in 2010 (July 4,6,7-- 101, 101, 100), back to back in 2011 (July 22 and 23-- 103, 102), 1993 (July 9,10-- 101, 100), three straight in 1966 (July 2,3,4-- 101,104*,101) in 1983 we had 2 100 degree readings, once in July (16) and August (20) and the earliest 100 degree readings recorded were in the first year of measurement (1948) in late August (26,27-- 100, 101). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 I love this extreme weather website, the data is easier to access and much better organized than the NWS site. https://www.extremeweatherwatch.com/cities/jfk-airport More JFK Airport Weather Records 1948–2025 Highest daily low 82 °F August 14, 2016 Lowest daily high 8 °F January 17, 1977 Greatest daily range(Difference of high and low) 47 °F December 23, 2022 Greatest difference in daily high over two conscutive days 40 °F Dec 23–24, 2022 Most daily precipitation 8.1 inches September 29, 2023 Most monthly precipitation 17.2 inches August 2011 Most yearly precipitation 59.1 inches 1983 Most yearly days with precipitation 156 2018 Earliest snow in season October 26 1962 Latest snow in season April 19 1983 Most daily snow 30.3 inches January 23, 2016 Most monthly snow 32.1 inches February 2003 Most yearly snow 61.9 inches 2003 Most snow in a winter 69.0 inches 1995–1996 Greatest snow accumulation 28.0 inches January 24, 2016 Earliest freeze October 19 1976 Earliest day ≥ 80 °F March 13 1990 Earliest day ≥ 90 °F April 12 1977 Latest freeze April 14 1950 Latest day ≥ 80 °F November 7 2022 Latest day ≥ 90 °F October 8 2007 Most days in a year < 0 °F 1 1985 Most days in a year < 32 °F 91 1967 Most days in a year ≥ 80 °F 99 2015 Most days in a year ≥ 90 °F 32 2010 Most days in a year ≥ 100 °F 3 2010 JFK Airport Weather Streaks Most consecutive days... With precipitation 14 days Apr 24 – May 7, 2019 Without precipitation 37 days May 30 – Jul 5, 1949 With snow 5 days Feb 28 – Mar 4, 2019 High temperature at or below freezing 16 days Jan 19 – Feb 3, 1961 High temperature ≥ 80 °F 55 days Jul 17 – Sep 9, 2015 High temperature ≥ 90 °F 7 days Jul 19–25, 1972 High temperature ≥ 100 °F 3 days Jul 2–4, 1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 Interesting tidbits based on the above data.... 2019 (which I only remember for the heat in July), had 5 straight days of measurable snow from late February to early March followed by 14 straight days of rainfall from late April to early May. Then later in July it had the aforementioned back to back 99 degree days and the highest heat indices ever recorded at JFK (back to back 117)! Also June 1949 had 0 precip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 Up to 72 with in between sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 12z ICON has a little powerhouse over our area: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 Needed that in January 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 Speaking of JFK, I remember when it hit 99 under fully overcast skies with a W or NW wind. I don’t remember what year that was but it was in the early 2010’s when I still lived in Queens, it felt so weird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 23 minutes ago, Cfa said: Speaking of JFK, I remember when it hit 99 under fully overcast skies with a W or NW wind. I don’t remember what year that was but it was in the early 2010’s when I still lived in Queens, it felt so weird. So many 99 degree days looks really weird. There were as many 99 degree days (19) as all the 100-104 degree days combined (also 19) !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 78 and humid feeling. Lots of puffy clouds under higher level haze looking clouds. I can't remember the names anymore lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 Up to 75 with sun would have hit 80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 Euro still likes the big noreaster idea for our area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 30 minutes ago, Sundog said: Euro still likes the big noreaster idea for our area WPC has beefed up totals covering the next 7 days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 36 minutes ago, Sundog said: Euro still likes the big noreaster idea for our area rain is so boring. the euro was wrong all winter so that trend would not be that hard to believe now either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 1 hour ago, SACRUS said: Up to 75 with sun would have hit 80. we'll get plenty of that to open up June. even the TV mets are banging the drums for a hot start to June now. the three month JJA forecast is out and it calls for hot weather on both the east and west coast with milder weather in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 looks like my hoodie wearing may come to a abrupt end next week or maybe i will just leave the hoodie unzipped instead something to ponder on these next few days.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 18z NAM is MUCH wetter for he tristate compared to 12z for the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 7 minutes ago, Sundog said: 18z NAM is MUCH wetter for he tristate compared to 12z for the first round. The north trend commences... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegan_edible Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 33 minutes ago, nycwinter said: looks like my hoodie wearing may come to a abrupt end next week or maybe i will just leave the hoodie unzipped instead something to ponder on these next few days.. glad to hear it:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 6 minutes ago, vegan_edible said: glad to hear it:) I'm excited that our forecast is rapidly changing to both hotter AND drier once June begins. I wouldn't mind it if it didn't rain again until September. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted May 27, 2025 Share Posted May 27, 2025 Showers are likely tomorrow into Thursday. An additional round of showers and thundershowers is possible on Saturday. Cooler than normal temperatures will prevail through the week. Meanwhile daily record and possible monthly record heat could develop for Friday and Saturday in such cities as Redding and Sacramento. June looks to be warmer than normal on the CFSv2. However, just as had been the case for May, the AI guidance is notably cooler than the conventional models. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.2°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.2°C for the week centered around May 21. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.08°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.08°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least mid summer. Early indications are that summer 2025 will be warmer than normal in the New York City and Philadelphia areas. The potential exists for a much warmer than normal summer (more than 1° above normal). The SOI was +29.36 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +2.171 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied near 74% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal May (1991-2020 normal). May will likely finish with a mean temperature near 62.7° (0.5° below normal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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