May 2025

[Sundog]

6 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

it's a nuanced argument that can presented many different ways.

of course it's warming but....

1) winters are warming much more quickly than summers are

2) summer high temps are capped by the planet self regulating the excess heat by dumping it into the ocean, thus we're not getting the higher number of 90 degree days that we used to.

3) if you go by averages it does not matter either way, since mins are going up much faster than the maxes are.

4) the way I define heat as in number of 90 and 100 degree days and length of heat waves is only going up for areas well inland.

 

The increased water vapor has really jacked up our average dewpoint which is like a natural cap to very high temps. 

One of these years we are going to get strong, dry westerly winds in a heatwave and we are going to set very high temperature records. 

[Dark Star]

2 hours ago, FPizz said:

Do you think anyone cares if it says 89 vs 90 on an app?  I highly doubt it.  Both are hot and people will be wearing shorts minus nycsnow who will be wearing a light hoodie.  Only a few weather enthusiasts really care.  The same people that see 89 on an app also quote their cars when it says 95 when it is really 88.  

It really doesn't matter.  We use all historical data for the minimum/maximum records for any specific date, but only use the previous 20-30 year average for the day's average temperatures?  When people hear heat index temperatures, or wind chill, they think that is the actual temperature, so, it really doesn't matter,because all the really good looking girls would still go out with the guys from Mohawk cause they've got all the money!  

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

2 hours ago, FPizz said:

He brought up a temp from app. No one cares about an arbitrary # that the weather community uses.  If it is 89 or 90, not a single person in the world would change anything in their lives including you.  No one also cares if it 35 or 33 on an app.   

Ok so maybe the Ap thing was a bad example. Where it does matter is in declaring official heat waves. Opening cooling centers for poor elderly and the homeless. 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

Just took a nice 6 mile walk right on the ocean at Jones Beach. Senior cut day with kids running in and out of the water. Gorgeous beach day if you don’t mind a little bite in the east wind.

[Brian5671]

25 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Just took a nice 6 mile walk right on the ocean at Jones Beach. Senior cut day with kids running in and out of the water. Gorgeous beach day if you don’t mind a little bite in the east wind.

That water can't be more than 50-55 degrees---brrr

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, Sundog said:

The increased water vapor has really jacked up our average dewpoint which is like a natural cap to very high temps. 

One of these years we are going to get strong, dry westerly winds in a heatwave and we are going to set very high temperature records. 

I hope and wish lol.

The longest heatwaves page the NWS has up for NYC really puts things into perspective.  I think NYC LGA EWR and JFK all had their longest heatwaves in 1953, 1993 and 1999.

 

[LibertyBell]

34 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Just took a nice 6 mile walk right on the ocean at Jones Beach. Senior cut day with kids running in and out of the water. Gorgeous beach day if you don’t mind a little bite in the east wind.

Gorgeous day, the clouds have held off.

Not going to see another one like this until next Sunday?

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, Stormlover74 said:

Models seem to be showing about an inch of rain this week particularly nyc on south and west which would give areas that still need some rain a good soaking 

Yes south Jersey and southeast PA really need it.

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, Dark Star said:

It really doesn't matter.  We use all historical data for the minimum/maximum records for any specific date, but only use the previous 20-30 year average for the day's average temperatures?  When people hear heat index temperatures, or wind chill, they think that is the actual temperature, so, it really doesn't matter,because all the really good looking girls would still go out with the guys from Mohawk cause they've got all the money!  

I read this wrong

because all the really good looking girls would still go out with the guys with a Mohawk cause they've got all the money!  

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

38 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

That water can't be more than 50-55 degrees---brrr

Yeah I had me feet in and it stung. If I’m surfing it’s still full suit boots and gloves. 
Some of those kids are drunk/high. Allot of high schools choose jones beach for senior cut day due to the lack of rule enforcement. I mean, for mine back in 00 we burried a keg in ice the night before. Had the tap sticking out of a hole cut in a beach blanket. Ahhh the good old days. 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

34 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Gorgeous day, the clouds have held off.

Not going to see another one like this until next Sunday?

Yeah the rest of the week looks like crap. Hopefully we can salvage at least some of Memorial Day weekend but the pattern isn’t conducive for beach weather either way.

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah the rest of the week looks like crap. Hopefully we can salvage at least some of Memorial Day weekend but the pattern isn’t conducive for beach weather either way.

Memorial Day weekend is a long way off, I could see any rain being suppressed to our south by then.

[Brian5671]

7 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah the rest of the week looks like crap. Hopefully we can salvage at least some of Memorial Day weekend but the pattern isn’t conducive for beach weather either way.

usually chilly memorial day for the beach anyway-water is cold so any seabreeze and it's under 70 degrees

[Brian5671]

10 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah I had me feet in and it stung. If I’m surfing it’s still full suit boots and gloves. 
Some of those kids are drunk/high. Allot of high schools choose jones beach for senior cut day due to the lack of rule enforcement. I mean, for mine back in 00 we burried a keg in ice the night before. Had the tap sticking out of a hole cut in a beach blanket. Ahhh the good old days. 

We went to Great Adventure in Jackson-that was back when they had the animal safari...LOL