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1 hour ago, MJO812 said:

Why are you so confident ? You really dont see a better pattern ahead with the MJO going into the favorable phases ? Its you vs the world in that regards lol

No, I do...I just don't think you will benefit much from it in December. Stop showing me Strat warming links and show me pics of snow in Central Park, or shut it.

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Today’s MJO forecasts finally came out:

GEFS: Phase 8 12/2-16 (15 days+)

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EPS: Phase 8 12/3-16 (14 days+)

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 Should either of these progs verify, it would be the longest winter phase 8 in 50 years!

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25 minutes ago, LakePaste25 said:

I still do not see any pattern that supports major I-95 snow through mid december. Nothing will dig with this. You’re looking at light events/sliders. Still favors Great Lakes/Interior the most. 

 

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Looks like clippers 

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27 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Maybe you can chime into MJO Chief Wiggum about when the big snow is coming for Central Park...

i mean, I don't think it's deniable that the pattern looks conducive for at BN temps for most of the month. looks a lot better than it did last week with the GEFS falling flat on its face. then, we should see that pattern continue into mid-late month aside from maybe a brief warmup around the 13th or so

snow is more difficult to predict, though. the northern mid-Atlantic should see chances through the month, especially after the 15th IMO

you know Tony just regurgitates that stuff though lmao 

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55 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

No, I do...I just don't think you will benefit much from it in December. Stop showing me Strat warming links and show me pics of snow in Central Park, or shut it.

 

52 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Maybe you can chime into MJO Chief Wiggum about when the big snow is coming for Central Park...

Damn whats up your ass ? So hostile.:arrowhead:

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23 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

i mean, I don't think it's deniable that the pattern looks conducive for at BN temps for most of the month. looks a lot better than it did last week with the GEFS falling flat on its face. then, we should see that pattern continue into mid-late month aside from maybe a brief warmup around the 13th or so

snow is more difficult to predict, though. the northern mid-Atlantic should see chances through the month, especially after the 15th IMO

you know Tony just regurgitates that stuff though lmao 

From who ? And yes I agree that we should get chances once we get into 8. There should be a lag so we are looking at mid to late December for a possibly big storm. 

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 The Euro Weeklies have a potent mean SER/-PNA Dec 15th-Jan 11th. Though the Weeklies have over forecasted the SER recently, it’s getting increasingly likely that Dec will average a -PNA. Since 1983-4, there have been 11 -ENSO winters with a -PNA. All 11 had a +PNA in the subsequent Jan. Based on this, the odds of a +PNA for Jan averaged out are increasing. If that were to verify, the chances would be high that the Euro’s potent -PNA Jan 1-11 will be wrong. We’ll see. 

12/15-21:

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12/22-28:

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12/29-1/4:

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1/5-11:

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13 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Weeklies

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This is downright ugly for the SE 12/15-1/12 (ECMWF site, itself, is warmer than WxBell’s interpretation), but I’m hopeful it’s overdoing the SER like it has been recently. Plus, this period is still a near eternity away forecasting credibilitywise, especially holidays onward.

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1 hour ago, LakePaste25 said:

I still do not see any pattern that supports major I-95 snow through mid december. Nothing will dig with this. You’re looking at light events/sliders. Still favors Great Lakes/Interior the most. 

 

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Completely agree. The pattern looks extremely hostile to KU’s up the coast through at least mid-December and very likely beyond that time frame 

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6 minutes ago, GaWx said:

This is downright ugly for the SE 12/15-1/12 (ECMWF site, itself, is warmer than WxBell’s interpretation), but I’m hopeful it’s overdoing the SER.

Compared to December 2015, 2021, 2019 its still an ice box though

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8 minutes ago, GaWx said:

This is downright ugly for the SE 12/15-1/12 (ECMWF site, itself, is warmer than WxBell’s interpretation), but I’m hopeful it’s overdoing the SER like it has been recently. Plus, this period is still a near eternity away forecasting credibilitywise, especially holidays onward.

Dry with lots of up and down cold my way with that pattern. I'd like to see even some rain at this point. 

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1 minute ago, SnowGoose69 said:

Down in the SE US Dec 2023 was not as warm as 2019.  2023 the warmth was worse across the Lakes/UW and NE

 

8 minutes ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said:

I assume you mean 2023, instead of 2019.

In the SE, Dec of 2019 in F was +2 to +5 vs Dec of 2023’s 0 to +3. So, 2019 was 2 warmer.

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