Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change

[ChescoWx]

3 hours ago, rcostell said:

I'm referencing effects of a warming climate- not weather.  I've seen melting permafrost in Northern Norway, rapidly melting (in geologic and real time) icefields in Iceland and Alberta, Canada- rapidly melting glaciers in Switzerland and the American West and unprecedented bleaching of coal reefs in the Carribean. Northward migration of invasive plants and animals intop the interior of the Adirndacks, shortening of "ice season" on our boreal lakes in the North Country of NY and salt water intrusion into coastal cedar swamps in NJ due to sea level rise.  These things and may more are occurring.  They are irrefutable and real and measured and progressing and accelerating= verified first hand. You can choose to believe me or not- but I've answered your inquiry.   In return -  I would simply ask you to acknowledge whats going on around us as real- as that debate can no longer be supported to to the visible objective evidence and effects. The data analysis is simply court reporting on a known verdict.  I've offered a few objective evidence examples, in my own way, on this forum (Switzerland glacier collapse, as example)- whiich you seem to slough off- but you haven't been at site to know better.   Consider that good people with good data and senses (eyes, speech, memory) are seeing what is going on.  No need to push back any longer. We need some solutions.   I'm kind of done in sensibly responding to you- please consider your stance- from an objectiive evidence perspective- not opinion of others.   Thanks. 

Again no historical evidence of what happened in the Adirondacks in 1450 during those 4 straight warm decades where the average temperature in the Adirondacks increased from 50 degrees during the decade of the 1410's to 55 degrees during the 1450's etc. Of course we don't have that actual specific data - hence the problem!  Clearly where we differ is you thinking any of the above current climate change during this warming cycle is in any way scary, dangerous or puts our planet in peril. My clear view based on the data is there is nothing to be afraid of here. Plus there is absolutely nothing that has been proven that has ever shown in our history right up till today that man can do anything at all to impact the current warming cycle or oh yeah that next cooling cycle that could be right around the corner. The earth and humans as always will easily adapt no matter what mother nature throws our way. Climate change no matter the warming or cooling is far from anything any human should rate in their top 100 concerns during their lifetime. Facts over feelings folks!!

[TheClimateChanger]

 

[Typhoon Tip]

I compared denialism and reticence to accept the CC crisis to the boiling frog metaphor years and years ago. 
 

It’s social media so tfwiw but no shit  duh

https://www.instagram.com/p/DMgeuGSzP3W/?igsh=aXEwbmJicXc2NW9w

 

[LibertyBell]

10 hours ago, ChescoWx said:

Then please show us any weather event that occurred that is unprecedented and has been proven to have occurred as a result of our current warmer cycle of our typical climate change?

102 degrees on back to back days in June of this year comes to mind.

We got the monthly record and earliest ever 100 degree temperatures at JFK.

[LibertyBell]

9 hours ago, rcostell said:

I'm referencing effects of a warming climate- not weather.  I've seen melting permafrost in Northern Norway, rapidly melting (in geologic and real time) icefields in Iceland and Alberta, Canada- rapidly melting glaciers in Switzerland and the American West and unprecedented bleaching of coal reefs in the Carribean. Northward migration of invasive plants and animals intop the interior of the Adirndacks, shortening of "ice season" on our boreal lakes in the North Country of NY and salt water intrusion into coastal cedar swamps in NJ due to sea level rise.  These things and may more are occurring.  They are irrefutable and real and measured and progressing and accelerating= verified first hand. You can choose to believe me or not- but I've answered your inquiry.   In return -  I would simply ask you to acknowledge whats going on around us as real- as that debate can no longer be supported to to the visible objective evidence and effects. The data analysis is simply court reporting on a known verdict.  I've offered a few objective evidence examples, in my own way, on this forum (Switzerland glacier collapse, as example)- whiich you seem to slough off- but you haven't been at site to know better.   Consider that good people with good data and senses (eyes, speech, memory) are seeing what is going on.  No need to push back any longer. We need some solutions.   I'm kind of done in sensibly responding to you- please consider your stance- from an objectiive evidence perspective- not opinion of others.   Thanks. 

Yes, the lack of snow and ice in the Alps means a shortage of fresh water, it's truly terrible.

 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, Typhoon Tip said:

I compared denialism and reticence to accept the CC crisis to the boiling frog metaphor years and years ago. 
 

It’s social media so tfwiw but no shit  duh

https://www.instagram.com/p/DMgeuGSzP3W/?igsh=aXEwbmJicXc2NW9w

 

Even if the public did accept it wholeheartedly, I don't think any of us could make a difference, our country and our planet is run by corrupt rich oligarchs.

 

[rcostell]

6 hours ago, ChescoWx said:

Again no historical evidence of what happened in the Adirondacks in 1450 during those 4 straight warm decades where the average temperature in the Adirondacks increased from 50 degrees during the decade of the 1410's to 55 degrees during the 1450's etc. Of course we don't have that actual specific data - hence the problem!  Clearly where we differ is you thinking any of the above current climate change during this warming cycle is in any way scary, dangerous or puts our planet in peril. My clear view based on the data is there is nothing to be afraid of here. Plus there is absolutely nothing that has been proven that has ever shown in our history right up till today that man can do anything at all to impact the current warming cycle or oh yeah that next cooling cycle that could be right around the corner. The earth and humans as always will easily adapt no matter what mother nature throws our way. Climate change no matter the warming or cooling is far from anything any human should rate in their top 100 concerns during their lifetime. Facts over feelings folks!!

Your next to last sentence and prior ones are opinons, of course.  Then- read your last sentence, slowly.  Talk about contradicting yourself!  Case closed.