weathafella Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I take my daily max/min ob every AM between 6:30 and 7AM. The values are recorded on that day so being the 31st, today is the last ob for the month. Most coop stations do it that way (7a-7a) and since I started that way I still do it that way. That means that any comparison I do to past years is the same. Ah ok. I think the big 4 do it midnight to midnight right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 They must be shaded or something as the lapse rates are always very steep haha. For those guys to hit 90F at 1,000ft, it seems like it's gotta be upper 90s to 100F in the hot spots near sea level. They strike me as having properties that would have an easier time seeing high temps prior to full green up. Like 80s in a late April or early May hot spell, but then struggles to get much hotter than that all warm season once the leaves come out. Deep woods FTW or FTL? No sun back here till 10:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Yes the trees and woods keep it much cooler. I don't get sun until after 10:00 in the yard. This time of year the front get s a lot of sun in the PM..but it's shaded in the back by 3:00. 90 is easier to hit with no foliage I always wanted to have simultaneous pics taken at sunrise and sunset on the elevated open field plains in Sterling and my house.. They get sun from sunrise to sun down. Having a somewhat accurate car thermo, its not uncommon in late afternoon around 6-7 to leave my house at like 83 degrees or so and drive to there and read 88 or so. Knowing that this is not air mass itself related but rather microclimatic stuff, having the car thermo is great. This past winter I took a weenie drive and noted temps at different elevations in a small 5 mile radius, was really surprised at the differences due to radiation first thing in the AM under deep snow and light winds. Weenie stuff for sure but explains a lot of the snow depth days differences in location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Deep woods FTW or FTL? No sun back here till 10:00 For a drought that is a green ass lawn and don't tell me its your watering because its uniform and the non grass vegetation is lush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 For a drought that is a green ass lawn and don't tell me its your watering because its uniform and the non grass vegetation is lush. I have been watering deeply for the last 3 weeks. The back does not get more than a few hours of later morning-early afternoon sun Those pics show you why my dews run higher..Woods are a dews best friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I have been watering deeply for the last 3 weeks. The back does not get more than a few hours of later morning-early afternoon sun Those pics show you why my dews run higher..Woods are a dews best friend For sure, localized stuff not airmass related as has been stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 3.22" on the month Maxed out at 93-94F Low was 49-50F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 3.22" on the month Maxed out at 93-94F Low was 49-50F 2.41 92 max 54 low 71.6 average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 They must be shaded or something as the lapse rates are always very steep haha. For those guys to hit 90F at 1,000ft, it seems like it's gotta be upper 90s to 100F in the hot spots near sea level. They strike me as having properties that would have an easier time seeing high temps prior to full green up. Like 80s in a late April or early May hot spell, but then struggles to get much hotter than that all warm season once the leaves come out. My station was off-line for a while this spring, but I just did a check from April 1 - May 15 last year and for the same period in 2013. During those time periods, I hit 80* once last year (May 12) and nonce the year prior. Not that they're terribly accurate, but my car thermometer is in sych with that as well as other locations where I'm driving per the stations in those areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 That's certainly true around me. I know that for me topography also plays a role in that I have a hill to my west and a lot of times my yard is shaded by 4PM in the summer so its never baking in the sun as long as a station that is fully open all day so I avoid those late day maxes. That's representative of my area so it's not like the temperatures are unrealistic. Like Ginx said, we have homes surrounded by forest and the forest is cooler than larger open areas where we don't live. Yeah here on the east side of the Spine we have quite a bit of that....but we do have a lot of folks in VT that live in wide open areas, like a grassy knoll on a hill or something. Of course there are also houses deep in the woods with no view of anything but dense woods. Down in Woodstock, CT I know there are definitely homes in deep forest but also a lot of old stately homes up on grass fields and hills. I remember going through Union and seeing homes with huge open areas around them. But then you have homes like Blizz's pics where it's basically impossible to get a 40-degree diurnal swing with those trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Nice morning. 50s and NNW winds of 20-40mph creating orographic cloud development. Where picnic tables live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Nice morning. 50s and NNW winds of 20-40mph creating orographic cloud development. Where picnic tables live. image.jpg Beautiful shot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Ah ok. I think the big 4 do it midnight to midnight right? Yes. One is a calendar day and the other is a meteorological day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Nice morning. 50s and NNW winds of 20-40mph creating orographic cloud development. Where picnic tables live. image.jpg Beautiful shot! Yeah, that's an awesome shot! I hope you consider yourself lucky to have such a job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Watch the dew drop inn, PSF 59 ALB 58 we start the rooster crowing, afternoon should be delightful as dews drop below 60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Watch the dew drop inn, PSF 59 ALB 58 we start the rooster crowing, afternoon should be delightful as dews drop below 60 Things should really dry out this afternoon. I think there is a lot of residual moisture around right now from the rains last evening. I don't think it will be just VT with DP's in the 50s come evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Things should really dry out this afternoon. I think there is a lot of residual moisture around right now from the rains last evening. I don't think it will be just VT with DP's in the 50s come evening. COC underway. Out to cut and split 73.3/63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 They are ravenous. We had a couple calls tonight asking the official definition. I mean PWM barely averages over 3 days in a calendar year. Such is life though, we call blizzards so because a site or two reaches criteria when the vast majority of the population away from the Tarmac and coast never see anything close to it. Totally agree with the boldfaced. In 42 years living in Maine, I can recall about 4 snow events which met wind/visibility thresholds during the storm. (3/81 and 4/82 in Ft. Kent, 12/6-7/03 and probably last Jan 27-28 in New Sharon - I was in SNJ but neighbors' descriptions support Blizz cond.) In Ft. Kent we probably met blizz cond. 2-3 days in a typical winter, but 90% were on NW winds after most/all accum was done. My two worst, by far, experiences driving in blowing snow came while the sun was shining. I think the big 4 do it midnight to midnight right? I think all 1st order stations are mid-mid, as are some coops. One issue I have with Farmington's long - since 1893 - record is that the obs time has obviously (based on checking their temps at obs time) been switched between 7A and midnight several times. I used to use midnight, but when I moved to Ft.Kent and had to be headed into the woods before 7A I switched to 9P, which I still do along with cocorahs precip at 7 A, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 We COC. 76.0/58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 We COC. 76.0/58 Not Vt Westfield, Barnes Municipal Airport 10:53 Fair 82 59 Meriden, Meriden Markham Municipal Airport 10:53 Fair 84 59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Not Vt Westfield, Barnes Municipal Airport 10:53 Fair 82 59 Meriden, Meriden Markham Municipal Airport 10:53 Fair 84 59 BAF is actually down to a DP of 53 in their latest ob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Not Vt Westfield, Barnes Municipal Airport 10:53 Fair 82 59 Meriden, Meriden Markham Municipal Airport 10:53 Fair 84 59 Temp steady--DP continues to tick down, nice breeze. Perfect for cutting/splitting. 76.3/56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 BDL at 84. Fair chance of 90 again. No coc k in ct since the definition is 72/48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 BDL at 84. Fair A snowball's chance in hell of 90 again. No coc k in ct since the definition is 72/48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 BAF is actually down to a DP of 53 in their latest ob. A bit dry on the tarmac there. What is it on the lush lawns where people live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 69/56 at 12:30pm here at the office at 1500ft. Glorious feeling out there. 73/55 down in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 A bit dry on the tarmac there. What is it on the lush lawns where people live? Looks like low 60s and upper 50s at most places on the meso map: http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/map/?&zoom=10&scroll_zoom=true¢er=42.23055108552288,-72.69927978515625&basemap=OpenStreetMap&boundaries=true,false,false&obs=true&obs_type=weather&elements=temp,dew&obs_popup=false&obs_density=1 There's an occasional one near 70 but that is the exception and not the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 BDL at 84. Fair chance of 90 again. No coc k in ct since the definition is 72/48as stated many times, you are on the bench for definition of Chamber, due to your stated dislike of the term. We Cocadooodle dew in many towns in CT many of which are not located in Vt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 The definition doesn't move and change. It's 72/48. 85-90 with dews around 60 is hot . Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 The definition doesn't move and change. It's 72/48. 85-90 with dews around 60 is hot . Lol Exactly. And above or below normal always means at least double digit departures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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