Chicago WX Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 MDW AP 3 SW COOP up to 76.7" for the season, through yesterday. Combined MDW airport (1928-1980) and COOP (1980-present) records top 5 season snowfall list below. 89.7" in 1978-79 82.7" in 1977-78 77.0" in 1969-70 76.7" in 2013-14 thru 3/2 68.4" in 1966-67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewers Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Fell to -1 at RAC and MKE....-24 at GRB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Lots of areas hit -30F to -32F last nite in Wisconsin. Below norm temps are going nowhere: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Got down to -12 here and also at MLI, which is a new record. -12 blows away the coldest temps we saw in all of the last two winters. Pretty damn impressive it got that low on March 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 I don't think you were understanding my discussion with Bo. All I was saying to Bo was with the light winds over the next few days the GL ice cover % will likely peak. I agree that all we need is a big storm to break it up like last time. I was not saying there are not open spots. No I got what you were saying. The map was broad brushing the ice cover more or less. At least from satellite images you can see a lot of deep blue water showing through, although some of that may be really thin ice <1" thick. Lots of areas hit -30F to -32F last nite in Wisconsin. Below norm temps are going nowhere: Hey you're on the back edge at least! Still some really light snow here in Racine. Sun should be out by lunch time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Got down to -12 here and also at MLI, which is a new record. -12 blows away the coldest temps we saw in all of the last two winters. Pretty damn impressive it got that low on March 3rd. Yeah...we smoked the old record here. Not even close. Clouds already streaming in... Might get above 10F today if we are lucky. Hopefully this winter takes care of the Japanese Beetles and a few other bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelakeroy Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 No I got what you were saying. The map was broad brushing the ice in ice cover more or less. At least from satellite images you can see a lot of deep blue water showing through, although some of that may be really thin ice <1" thick. Hey you're on the back edge at least! Still some really light snow here in Racine. Sun should be out by lunch time though. My lake was crystal clear 3" thick in the beginning of December. Looked just like water except there were no waves with the breeze. My kids were walking on it and it looked like they were walking on water! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Yeah...we smoked the old record here. Not even close. Clouds already streaming in... Might get above 10F today if we are lucky. Hopefully this winter takes care of the Japanese Beetles and a few other bugs. Yeah it will be interesting to see if there's any fewer bugs this season. Last May/June the gnats were terrible around here. Swarms of them would suddenly appear around your face anytime you were outside for more than a few minutes. I'm wondering if the deep frost will kill off some of the 13 and 17 year cicadas, which leave their larva underground in hibernation. The last I heard the frost was 26" deep here in town according to a public works employee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 My lake was crystal clear 3" thick in the beginning of December. Looked just like water except there were no waves with the breeze. My kids were walking on it and it looked like they were walking on water! If I could see the water below I'd probably be too chicken to walk on it! lol. Unless it wasn't deep. Can see the river valleys good this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 @ Whitelakeroy... I still feel we have a real good shot at surpassing 1994's ice coverage. I think it was 94 or 95%.... don't quote me tho. here's a list of everyone who fell to -20 or colder. quite widespread. my co-op friend 2 miles from here was -24, I had -28. I'm less wooded than he. 3 SSW INDIAN RIVER -34 0712 AM 03/03 2 SE ROSCOMMON -33 0637 AM 03/03 PELLSTON RGNL AIRPORT OF EMMET -30 0654 AM 03/03 2 E CADILLAC -28 0535 AM 03/03 4 SW FIFE LAKE -28 0645 AM 03/03 4 N RUDYARD -28 0730 AM 03/03 MANCELONA -27 0715 AM 03/03 1 SSW KALKASKA -27 0620 AM 03/03 KALKASKA 11SE -26 0830 AM 03/03 2 W LEWISTON -26 0615 AM 03/03 4 N FREDERIC -26 0600 AM 03/03 1 E CLEAR LAKE STATE PARK -26 0608 AM 03/03 4 W BOYNE CITY -26 0527 AM 03/03 OTSEGO COUNTY AIRPORT -26 0653 AM 03/03 ENGADINE MDOT -25 0730 AM 03/03 GRAYLING -25 0555 AM 03/03 LOUD DAM -25 0900 AM 03/03 2 S BENZONIA -25 0720 AM 03/03 1 NNW ALGER -25 0701 AM 03/03 2 E MERRITT -24 0800 AM 03/03 3 WSW ENGADINE -24 0345 AM 03/03 1 NNW FIFE LAKE -24 0700 AM 03/03 1 SSE WATERS -24 0525 AM 03/03 HALE 5SSW -24 0800 AM 03/03 CADILLAC -24 0634 AM 03/03 4 WSW BLISS -24 0730 AM 03/03 1 SW KINCHELOE -24 0714 AM 03/03 2 ENE ELLSWORTH -24 0740 AM 03/03 1 NNW WELLSTON -24 0705 AM 03/03 CADILLAC 2SW -23 0730 AM 03/03 3 W PESHAWBESTOWN -23 0700 AM 03/03 ANTRIM COUNTY AIRPORT -23 0655 AM 03/03 SAULT STE MARIE -23 0800 AM 03/03 MORAN -23 0800 AM 03/03 1 ENE WELLSTON -23 0659 AM 03/03 2 SE JENNINGS -23 0740 AM 03/03 ROSCOMMON COUNTY AIRPORT -23 0653 AM 03/03 1 NNE CLARION -23 0700 AM 03/03 4 W RACO -23 0604 AM 03/03 2 SSW BAY VIEW -22 0647 AM 03/03 1 WSW GAYLORD -22 0453 AM 03/03 3 E SAULT STE. MARIE -22 0706 AM 03/03 MANTON -22 0713 AM 03/03 MANISTEE COUNTY-BLACKER AIRPOR -22 0735 AM 03/03 EXP FARM -21 0800 AM 03/03 6 ENE DUBLIN -21 0650 AM 03/03 9 SSW HARRIETTA -21 0700 AM 03/03 4 SSE STANDISH -21 0730 AM 03/03 2 W BOYNE FALLS -21 0652 AM 03/03 4 S PLEASANT VIEW -21 0627 AM 03/03 TIPPY DAM -21 0800 AM 03/03 2 WNW RAPID CITY -21 0703 AM 03/03 2 W ELMIRA -21 0440 AM 03/03 3 S ELK RAPIDS -20 0700 AM 03/03 CHEBOYGAN -20 0800 AM 03/03 3 W BAYSHORE -20 0645 AM 03/03 3 NW HOUGHTON LAKE -20 0700 AM 03/03 FRANKFORT -20 0713 AM 03/03 3 SSE GAYLORD -20 0339 AM 03/03 1 N MIO -20 0600 AM 03/03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelakeroy Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 @ Whitelakeroy... I still feel we have a real good shot at surpassing 1994's ice coverage. I think it was 94 or 95%.... don't quote me tho. here's a list of everyone who fell to -20 or colder. quite widespread. my co-op friend 2 miles from here was -24, I had -28. I'm less wooded than he. Nice March Coldness!!! Here is the historical chart: http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/data/pgs/imgs/IceCoverAvg1973_2013.jpg 90.7% in 1994 94.7% in 1979 We are at 90.5% as of 3/2. EDIT: I think it would be something if we could beat 1979 but that last few % is the challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Nice March Coldness!!! Here is the historical chart: http://www.glerl.noaa.gov/data/pgs/imgs/IceCoverAvg1973_2013.jpg 90.7% in 1994 94.7% in 1979 We are at 90.5% as of 3/2. After last nights brutal cold, I bet lake ice jumps by 3% when they update tonight. Just ideal conditions for ice forming. thx for the stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelakeroy Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 After last nights brutal cold, I bet lake ice jumps by 3% when they update tonight. Just ideal conditions for ice forming. thx for the stats. I just edited saying I hope we can challenge 1979. It is mostly going to be all about Lake Ontario the next few nights...with the light winds and we might just do it. We'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Fell to -1 at RAC and MKE....-24 at GRB Just incredible numbers here: RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GREEN BAY WI 824 AM CST MON MAR 3 2014 ...RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE SET AT GREEN BAY THIS MORNING... A RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE OF -24 DEGREES WAS SET IN GREEN BAY THIS MORNING. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF -10 DEGREES SET IN 1943 AND 1950. WHERE DOES THE -24 RANK IN THE RECORD BOOKS? - 2ND COLDEST TEMPERATURE EVER RECORD IN MARCH - 9TH COLDEST TEMPERATURE EVER RECORDED - LAST TIME GREEN BAY DROPPED TO -24...FEBRUARY 4...1996 - LATEST IN WINTER GREEN BAY HAS EVER DROPPED TO -24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Its got to be tough on those tapping maples for syrup. It looks like you need a few days in the 40Fs to get things going... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Ontario has been in pretty rapid freeze tho. 5 days ago: current: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 The farther we get into March without going above zero, the greater the flood threat will be once we finally torch. Warm air building in the south + increasing sun angle + additional snowfall + continual build up of river ice + probably what could be close to the deepest frost depth for March in years = all adding up for a big, wet spring thaw. Something to watch in the weeks ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 The farther we get into March without going above zero, the greater the flood threat will be once we finally torch. Warm air building in the south + increasing sun angle + additional snowfall + continual build up of river ice + probably what could be close to the deepest frost depth for March in years = all adding up for a big, wet spring thaw. Something to watch in the weeks ahead. That can't be emphasized enough! Probably really start to watch for that by the 3rd and 4th weeks of March. Couple tenths of snow in Racine. Up to 12°. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I hate to say it, and its not because I enjoy the snow, but really...people should really just hope for seasonal temps to start the melting process. As bad as some want a torch, that will be terrible. Sure, the March sun does wonders for the roof drippings and the pavement, and even around the edges...but there is a deep, water-logged snowpack that will take a while to fully melt if we avoid high temps and dews....but give us a high dew torch, or worse a warm rainstorm, and the frozen ground...yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Very nice rise this morning: All clouds here now. Above zero at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I hate to say it, and its not because I enjoy the snow, but really...people should really just hope for seasonal temps to start the melting process. As bad as some want a torch, that will be terrible. Sure, the March sun does wonders for the roof drippings and the pavement, and even around the edges...but there is a deep, water-logged snowpack that will take a while to fully melt if we avoid high temps and dews....but give us a high dew torch, or worse a warm rainstorm, and the frozen ground...yikes! I think, looking at least at the NAEFS, a slow temp rise (no torch) is what we are looking at... I never want to see a March 2012, i just want some 30Fs and 40Fs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 I think, looking at least at the NAEFS, a slow temp rise (no torch) is what we are looking at... I never want to see a March 2012, i just want some 30Fs and 40Fs... If that happened this month, the flooding would be historic. Glad nothing like that is on the horizon. By the 3rd and 4th week of the month the highs are getting up towards 45-50° for the heaviest water logged snow areas. Still could be some issues... Clouds starting to pull out as the winds shift more southerly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 14º here at 3:00pm. Side streets in my hood still snow covered despite 100% sunshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 suicide cancel: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted March 3, 2014 Author Share Posted March 3, 2014 suicide cancel: Haha. Much better! 16° here. Most roads clear of snow and ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Made it back to 16 this afternoon. Was outside for much of the afternoon, and even though it was in the teens it didn't feel too bad with the sun out and no wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 suicide cancel: Did you see the end of the run. Big dog for Chicago and Detroit, 1-2 feet of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelakeroy Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Did you see the end of the run. Big dog for Chicago and Detroit, 1-2 feet of snow. Wouldn't that be something!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 12z Euro ensembles have the day 8-9 storm. Not as amped as the operational, but wouldn't expect a mean to be at this timeframe. Something to watch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I am not going to put too much stock in the big euro system until I see some consistency from the Euro. However, the GFS does have the same pieces of energy but handles them completely different. I do think though, the fact that all the models have some form of a system at that time frame at least gives us something to monitor and eventually possibly track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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