OSUmetstud Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I didn't post about it in that thread yesterday, but even though the parameters were becoming amazingly favorable over SNE...I was become increasingly concerned about the convection having a difficult time maintaining itself in southern NY and northern PA. Obviously that was no longer an issue once those storms and new storms moved into Massachusetts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Ed, there is a free version of the Northeast EML paper...let me try to find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 2nd worst outbreak in Massachusetts history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I'm double posting this here and in the severe thread: Incredible aerial footage starting to come in! Channel 7 out of Boston has it live currently. Way bigger damage path than I had imagined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I think the path was continuous from Westfield all the way to Oxford. If it lifted it wasn't for long..That would be well over 60-70 miles in track length. The area in Sturbridge I saw it was about 1/4 -1/2 mile wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 2nd worst outbreak in Massachusetts history? Based on what parameters? Number of tornados? Deaths? Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Based on what parameters? Number of tornados? Deaths? Just wondering. it more of a question...combination of reports....tornadoes...strong tornadoes...deaths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 How many confirmed tornadoes were there? How many touchdowns. I think a couple of the touchdowns were from the same funnel... Does 7 sound right for the number of touchdowns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 it more of a question...combination of reports....tornadoes...strong tornadoes...deaths I agree with you that this was the worst other than 1953... Not disputing anything you posted. You were pretty close to getting a tornado, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I agree with you that this was the worst other than 1953... Not disputing anything you posted. You were pretty close to getting a tornado, correct? I think the tornado lifted about 25 miles upstream of us the supercell pretty rapidly weakened...2" hail in Millbury...then only pea maybe dimes in milford. We might have missed the hail core slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 2nd worst outbreak in Massachusetts history? If you mean modern history, yeah it looks to be #2. Extremely impressive, maybe the worst we will see for Massachusetts in our lifetimes! (Jerry and a few older people, aside) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 That question cannot be answered fairly, can it? There were strong tornados reported and documented in Colonial times... If you mean modern history, yeah it looks to be #2, but I'm no historian. Extremely impressive, maybe the worst we will see for Massachusetts in our lifetimes! yeah I was more talking about modern history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Looking at the 500mb evolution, it's really amazing how we got that sequence to happen like that....almost bulletproof solution from last Friday simply because the 850-200mb pattern was obnoxiously good. Just like in the winter, it isn't the surface results that matter when it comes to the modeling the med range, it's all about keeping a relatively consistent ua. the details will fall into place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Multiple news reports I'm watching are now starting to toss around "unconfirmed/unverified" by NWS but aerial survey of damage looks consistent with strong F-2 or F-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Ed, there is a free version of the Northeast EML paper...let me try to find it It was posted a couple days b4 the event in the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Multiple news reports I'm watching are now starting to toss around "unconfirmed/unverified" by NWS but aerial survey of damage looks consistent with strong F-2 or F-3. Yeah that's impressive... the last official F-3 in this general geographic area would be from May 1998 in eastern NY when an F3 destroyed some Albany, NY suburbs. I remember from that one there were carried and flipped pick-up trucks and that was one of the criteria they used to rate F3. Man my family's house on the MA/CT line in North Woodstock (just south of Sturbridge) just missed this one... in high school I worked at the Sturbridge Host Hotel right there by I-84/I-90 interchange. Know the area well and can't believe it got hit...spent many days in Sturbridge. Can anyone tell me what streets exactly got hit in Sturbridge? I can't seem to find that information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Here's a write up on my blog about the storm. http://ryanhanrahan.wordpress.com/2011/06/02/a-historic-tornado-outbreak-in-western-massachusetts/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew13btv Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Just wanted to post the static permanent image of the storm reports here. (since the linked one has already moved onto 6/2) (Permanent link for reports http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/110601_rpts.html) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 WHDH streaming aerials live http://www1.whdh.com/video/7newslive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Wow, a womans checkbook in Monson found in Milton! 53'niscnent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Wow, a womans checkbook in Monson found in Milton! 53'niscnent The length of damage with F2/F3 damage... possibly 30 miles or so long is incredible and probably a first in New England since 1953. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbutts Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 WHDH streaming aerials live http://www1.whdh.com/video/7newslive I grabbed a few screens from that stream: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmfm Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 The length of damage with F2/F3 damage... possibly 30 miles or so long is incredible and probably a first in New England since 1953. Damage path (West Springfield-Southbridge) looks about 40 miles or so long to me. That'd make it the longest tornado in MA history ('53 were both around 35 miles long). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Damage path (West Springfield-Southbridge) looks about 40 miles or so long to me. That'd make it the longest tornado in MA history ('53 were both around 35 miles long). Started west of west Springfield. A large chunk of Westfield has serious damage. I wonder if it could have even started before that in the more rural locales up the mounatin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmfm Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Started west of west Springfield. A large chunk of Westfield has serious damage. I wonder if it could have even started before that in the more rural locales up the mounatin. In that case even longer path, if it remained on the ground the entire length. I recall some question last night whether it cycled before Sturbridge and perhaps lifted? Guess we'll see. As of right now it also stands tied as the second deadliest tornado in MA history with the EF4 in '73(?) out in Berkshire county. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Damage path (West Springfield-Southbridge) looks about 40 miles or so long to me. That'd make it the longest tornado in MA history ('53 were both around 35 miles long). The main ORH tor path was longer than 35 miles. The smaller one was less than 35. (Sutton to Mansfield) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 In that case even longer path, if it remained on the ground the entire length. I recall some question last night whether it cycled before Sturbridge and perhaps lifted? Guess we'll see. As of right now it also stands tied as the second deadliest tornado in MA history with the EF4 in '73(?) out in Berkshire county. Yeah and it may have cycled just east of Springfield before Monson/Brimfield too. Not sure. We'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmfm Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 The main ORH tor path was longer than 35 miles. The smaller one was less than 35. (Sutton to Mansfield) http://www.tornadohistoryproject.com has F4 in '53: 34 miles in length, F3 in '53: 28 miles, F3 in '70: 35 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 http://www.tornadohistoryproject.com has F4 in '53: 34 miles in length, F3 in '53: 28 miles, F3 in '70: 35 miles. I was going by what is on the NWS Taunton slideshow. Petersham/New Salem MA line to Hopkinton/Ashland is not 35 miles. You can debate if you want, I'm not going to. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polski Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Abstract of EML paper, anyone know if a free version is available? http://journals.amet...010WAF2222363.1 http://www.erh.noaa....acosEML_waf.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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