jm1220

What a shame we can’t use it to track the rain/snow line in this one. It’ll be a nail biter!

Was nice to wake up to that morning, there was 6” of glue right down to the S Shore.

Don’t underestimate this extended fall with 10 days of winter’s ability to find new ways to keep us suffering.

A little surprised there’s no Flood Watch given the high water tables. Some models have 3”+ from this storm. Looks like another soaker.

I guess anything’s possible. It’s possible something sprang 1000 Loch Ness Monsters that will storm Battery Park tomorrow. That’s about as possible as seeing any snow from this storm.

It won’t in any way that will matter here. Embrace the puddles.

Take a day or two off and drive up there. Might be half decent around Hunter Mountain. Besides that nature is what it is.

Along I-90 to Boston I'd definitely keep an eye on it still. ORH area anyway away from the coast and elevated could definitely still be majorly impacted. Our wet windy misery might just be a couple degrees colder if Boston ends up getting slammed.

NNE will probably be fine. The storm cutting north over MI allows that WAA to max out further west and the secondary to take over and lock in the cold. Might still be worth watching down to I-90, even in Boston I’d keep an eye open. Here of course it’s just another flavor of misery. Whatever can end this complete garbage pattern I’m down for.

It’s going to be 3-4 days of misery, whether it’s a little windier or not. That’s all this block-whether it should be called that or not anymore with them regularly linking with the SE ridge now-is good for.

5 years ago he was on the opposite train and honking up the big snow patterns we were in. When the pattern supports it he’ll call that out, when clearly it doesn’t like now he calls that out.

A storm with a primary that tracks to Buffalo or Lake Huron will never be good for anything here other than heavy rain and a dry slot.

More dreariness and cold, that’s of course a guarantee.

If we have the SE Ridge/Bermuda high displaced north like we've been seeing the last several summers, there's the danger hurricanes will track N into our area instead of N then NE before hitting us. Probably will be a very active season.

Boston’s had a turn to bad luck since 2015 in general but the warmer conditions are teetering them over to sucky outcomes. If the storm last mid-March, 2/1/21 etc were 2-3 degrees colder, they’d be sitting on 25-30 more inches just from those 2 storms. The storms we had in mid Feb and our one widespread decent snow event 2/28/23 missed them to the south. The Jan 2016 blizzard just brushed them. I can’t see them ending below 10 inches this year, they’ll get some late snow event to get them over it. And I don’t think it takes a whole lot in this setup coming up for them to get slammed unlike us. Of course the 2-3 degrees too warm can happen and they get white rain again since they’d be relying on big dynamics to overcome onshore flow probably.

The upper low probably trended north at the very end like these tend to and I’m sure especially then with lousier computer models.

I don’t remember that storm at all and I would’ve cursed it to no end seeing Boston and I-90 get buried while I maybe got my 1-2” table scraps.

I’d have to look up the specific examples but the April storms we got like 2003 and 2018 were southern sliders that went underneath our area, not big closed upper lows where we’re waiting for the primary to die off. That primary kills whatever marginal airmass we have anyway to start with, and also a huge dry slot. We need the whole upper low etc setup to depart well south of us, I’d say no further north than Ocean City MD/Cape May maybe. The CCB will set up north and eventually west of the upper low as it matures, that’s why maybe we’d get table scraps snow/white rain around the matured upper low. That’s what happened to us in the 4/1/97 storm-most of us got screwed because the upper low was too far north and it buried I-90.

Any time of year would be a problem with a primary driving up to Buffalo. We would need the closed ULL a lot further south to force the redevelopment and CCB in a prime position for us. As JetsPens said, the ridging out ahead of it will try to force the upper low further north. From Boston on N I would keep a closer eye on it. The best area to be would be the high elevations like Adirondacks to Green/White Mountains and Berkshires. Even if lower elevations like Boston do get heavy snow they’d probably need to fight off marginal surface temps for a while. And again forget about any 10-1 map in this kind of marginal airmass setup unless you’re in the mountains. Down here the max potential I think is some heavier snow/table scraps precip that rots around the CCB that’s nailing New England.

I don’t doubt there’ll be a major storm given the blocky pattern, it’ll just be a miracle to get anything more than some snow showers in the rotting CCB for our sub forum. We’d need the upper low to close off and track over the DC area or maybe even further south. The firehose of moisture and snow will be focused north of that closed upper low.

Whenever all the snow melts that they’re getting in NNE it’ll be a big flood threat in all the downstream rivers combined with all the rain we’ve had. Ground of course is totally saturated.

The 10-1 maps should be thrown out anywhere other than high elevations in a storm like this, we have the usual problems with cold air, primary hanging on too long, the trough might not be that deep etc. I mentioned yesterday that I-90 on north should keep an eye on it but south of there too much is probably working against it. The rain deluge of course will find a way to happen.

Luckily we can also get tons of snow in that 6-8 week period. We just need the Pacific to cooperate in those times and not blast maritime puke all over the continent.

If (when) the Nina happens next winter, we have a better likelihood of December working out. Hope it happens because the rest of a Nina winter is most likely shot if it doesn’t. And hope we have a high ACE this summer.

The warmth will be there SW of us and when the blocking leaves it’s full steam bath ahead.